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Old 12-01-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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I think what makes this season really bad is, instead of progressing, the team has been regressing game to game. A number of weaknesses are very evident this year. IMO the biggest ones are:

1. The roster. The O-Line, the WRs, the LBs, the DBs, and the QBs all need to be revamped. The only position group on the team that is a strength week in and week out is the Defensive Line. IMO, the roster has so many glaring weaknesses I think it warrants Howie Roseman to lose his job. Seeing DK Metcalf crush us is such a twist of the knife considering the Eagles decided to draft JJ Arcega-Whiteside, a complete bust. Couple that with drafting Jalen Reagor instead of Justin Jefferson, Howie needs to be fired. The Jalen Hurts pick still looks awful.

2. The playcalling and general offensive scheme. Doug needs to hire a real offensive coordinator and give up playcalling. It's clear Frank Reich was the real architect of the 2017 super bowl. If Doug doesn't want to give up the power, he needs to be fired. The Eagles are tough to watch this year. Absolutely zero ability to go down the field. Last night's third down efficiency was much better, but we have been terrible at converting all season.

3. Carson Wentz isn't the guy. He holds the ball too long and fumbles far to much. He's not real accurate and doesn't have that strong of an arm and under throws receivers.
Well said, and I agree with all of the above.
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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I think what makes this season really bad is, instead of progressing, the team has been regressing game to game. A number of weaknesses are very evident this year. IMO the biggest ones are:

1. The roster. The O-Line, the WRs, the LBs, the DBs, and the QBs all need to be revamped. The only position group on the team that is a strength week in and week out is the Defensive Line. IMO, the roster has so many glaring weaknesses I think it warrants Howie Roseman to lose his job. Seeing DK Metcalf crush us is such a twist of the knife considering the Eagles decided to draft JJ Arcega-Whiteside, a complete bust. Couple that with drafting Jalen Reagor instead of Justin Jefferson, Howie needs to be fired. The Jalen Hurts pick still looks awful.

2. The playcalling and general offensive scheme. Doug needs to hire a real offensive coordinator and give up playcalling. It's clear Frank Reich was the real architect of the 2017 super bowl. If Doug doesn't want to give up the power, he needs to be fired. The Eagles are tough to watch this year. Absolutely zero ability to go down the field. Last night's third down efficiency was much better, but we have been terrible at converting all season.

3. Carson Wentz isn't the guy. He holds the ball too long and fumbles far to much. He's not real accurate and doesn't have that strong of an arm and under throws receivers.
The only thing I would quibble about with this is that while the O-line has been atrocious, they also lost both starting tackles (one an all-pro, the other a 1st round pick) and an all-pro guard to season ending injuries. That's nearly impossible to survive, and it should be better if everyone is healthy next year. The rest is spot on.
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:06 AM
 
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The only thing I would quibble about with this is that while the O-line has been atrocious, they also lost both starting tackles (one an all-pro, the other a 1st round pick) and an all-pro guard to season ending injuries. That's nearly impossible to survive, and it should be better if everyone is healthy next year. The rest is spot on.

True. I think some people, myself included, have understated the impact of losing of Brooks and Dillard has had from the very start. I wish Lane Johnson had called it quits a few weeks earlier to prevent further serious injury to his ankle. This season is a complete wash. However, I stand by my statements. If Howie, Doug, and Carson don't improve upon their weaknesses, it's time to move on.
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Old 12-09-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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Well, it's done. Wentz out, Hurts in. Although, in order of severity, the Eagles' top 5 problems are:

1. Roseman
2. Roseman (yes, he's bad enough to be both of the top 2)
3. Peterson
4. O-line Injuries
5. Wentz

Don't get me wrong. The Eagles are bad enough this year that all 5 need to be addressed, so benching Wentz isn't the wrong thing to do given his play, but if the other things aren't addressed (especially #1 and #2), nothing else is going to matter.

How bad is Howie Roseman? Everyone knows how bad his draft record is (JJAW/Reagor over DK/Jefferson, wasting a 2nd on a QB when your current start can't possibly be cut or traded because of his contract, last 5 years of DBs all suck (Maddox, Jones, Douglas, Mills, Gerry, Rowe), etc., etc.). But Howie's genius is supposed to be his cap management, so what does the Eagles' cap situation look like? Surely, they are well positioned cap-wise under Howie's genius, right?

https://overthecap.com/calculator/philadelphia-eagles/

The Eagles are projected to be a staggering $89,000,000 OVER the cap for next year going into the offseason. Some of that is due to the cap decreasing because the teams are obviously losing money by the truckful in this Covid season, but it's also $40m+ over this year's cap number, so even without the Covid reduction, they would likely be entering this offseason significantly over the cap.

But they should be able to make some painful choices and get rid of a couple high priced veterans like Carson or Cox to get under, right? It'll be painful to see those guys go, but we're in extraordinary times, so some tough decisions might have to be made. These are the top cap numbers and the cap savings you get by cutting them (negatives are a cap penalty for cutting them). Remember, you have to add up to $90m to get under and really more like $105-110m because once you do all of these things, you also need to sign half a team worth of minimum contracts just to have a full roster:

Player, Cap Charge, Savings to Cut, Savings to Trade
Wentz, 34.7m, -24.6m, 0.8m
Cox, 23.9m, 2.8m, 2.8m
Jeffrey, 18.5m, 8.0m, 8.0m
Graham, 17.9m, 0.7m, 0.7m
Johnson, 17.8,m, -21.1m, -11.1m
Slay, 15.7m, -6.0m, 6.0m
Hargrave, 15.2m, -7.3m, 5.4m
Brooks, 14.5m, -8.1m, 2.3m
M. Jackson, 13.6m, 0.9m, 0.9m
Ertz, 12.5m, 4.7m, 4.7m

You can see where this is going. These are the top 10 cap hits for next year on the roster. For 5 of them, there is a cap penalty for releasing them, and the cap savings for releasing the other 5 is about $17m (of the $105-110m of space they need to clear). This is a totally unmanageable situation and a disgrace that the GM put the franchise in this position. They can try to trade these guys, but there won't be much of a market for big contracts because a lot of other teams have tricky cap situations to manage because of the decrease as well. The following players are sure to be released:

Player, Cap Savings, Dead Money Charge:
Jeffrey, 8.0m, 10.5m
D. Jackson, 5.1m, 5.8m
Godwin, 4.2m, 4.2m
Ertz, 4.7m, 7.8m

Those are the best candidates to release as cap casualties, and they only save the team $22m of the $105m they need and leave behind $28m in dead money charges. Note that they are also all receivers, so if every veteran WR is released, it's fine because they will just turn to the 3 young WRs that Howie drafted this year to take their place, right? Those guys are Jalen Raegor, John Hightower, and Quez Watkins. And what exactly have they shown this year? LMAO.

All of this analysis doesn't even contemplate the pending free agents that don't count toward next year's cap right now, and can't be brought back unless they agree to play for the league minimum:

Peters
Mills
Sudfeld
Robey-Coleman
Curry
Ridgeway
LeBlanc
Rodgers
Boston Scott
Gerry
Greg Ward
Clement

None of those guys are really total difference makers, but guys like Curry, Ridgeway, Scott, Rodgers, Robey-Coleman, and Ward have been decent players this year who will get offers elsewhere and need to be replaced with cheaper, worse options (likely in bigger roles, too) and Mills and Gerry are starters who need to be replaced, although not good ones.

The mismanagement of the Eagles personnel is so staggeringly bad that Howie really does deserve to be fired twice. I have no idea how they are even going to get out of this. It may not even be possible to get out of it. I know they will have to restructure a bunch of huge contracts, which just pushes the cap issues into the future, so the hole Howie dug for this franchise is going to take years to fully recover.

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Old 12-09-2020, 05:19 PM
 
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Well, it's done. Wentz out, Hurts in. Although, in order of severity, the Eagles' top 5 problems are:

1. Roseman
2. Roseman (yes, he's bad enough to be both of the top 2)
3. Peterson
4. O-line Injuries
5. Wentz

Don't get me wrong. The Eagles are bad enough this year that all 5 need to be addressed, so benching Wentz isn't the wrong thing to do given his play, but if the other things aren't addressed (especially #1 and #2), nothing else is going to matter.

How bad is Howie Roseman? Everyone knows how bad his draft record is (JJAW/Reagor over DK/Jefferson, wasting a 2nd on a QB when your current start can't possibly be cut or traded because of his contract, last 5 years of DBs all suck (Maddox, Jones, Douglas, Mills, Gerry, Rowe), etc., etc.). But Howie's genius is supposed to be his cap management, so what does the Eagles' cap situation look like? Surely, they are well positioned cap-wise under Howie's genius, right?

https://overthecap.com/calculator/philadelphia-eagles/

The Eagles are projected to be a staggering $89,000,000 OVER the cap for next year going into the offseason. Some of that is due to the cap decreasing because the teams are obviously losing money by the truckful in this Covid season, but it's also $40m+ over this year's cap number, so even without the Covid reduction, they would likely be entering this offseason significantly over the cap.

But they should be able to make some painful choices and get rid of a couple high priced veterans like Carson or Cox to get under, right? It'll be painful to see those guys go, but we're in extraordinary times, so some tough decisions might have to be made. These are the top cap numbers and the cap savings you get by cutting them (negatives are a cap penalty for cutting them). Remember, you have to add up to $90m to get under and really more like $105-110m because once you do all of these things, you also need to sign half a team worth of minimum contracts just to have a full roster:

Player, Cap Charge, Savings to Cut, Savings to Trade
Wentz, 34.7m, -24.6m, 0.8m
Cox, 23.9m, 2.8m, 2.8m
Jeffrey, 18.5m, 8.0m, 8.0m
Graham, 17.9m, 0.7m, 0.7m
Johnson, 17.8,m, -21.1m, -11.1m
Slay, 15.7m, -6.0m, 6.0m
Hargrave, 15.2m, -7.3m, 5.4m
Brooks, 14.5m, -8.1m, 2.3m
M. Jackson, 13.6m, 0.9m, 0.9m
Ertz, 12.5m, 4.7m, 4.7m

You can see where this is going. These are the top 10 cap hits for next year on the roster. For 5 of them, there is a cap penalty for releasing them, and the cap savings for releasing the other 5 is about $17m (of the $105-110m of space they need to clear). This is a totally unmanageable situation and a disgrace that the GM put the franchise in this position. They can try to trade these guys, but there won't be much of a market for big contracts because a lot of other teams have tricky cap situations to manage because of the decrease as well. The following players are sure to be released:

Player, Cap Savings, Dead Money Charge:
Jeffrey, 8.0m, 10.5m
D. Jackson, 5.1m, 5.8m
Godwin, 4.2m, 4.2m
Ertz, 4.7m, 7.8m

Those are the best candidates to release as cap casualties, and they only save the team $22m of the $105m they need and leave behind $28m in dead money charges. Note that they are also all receivers, so if every veteran WR is released, it's fine because they will just turn to the 3 young WRs that Howie drafted this year to take their place, right? Those guys are Jalen Raegor, John Hightower, and Quez Watkins. And what exactly have they shown this year? LMAO.

All of this analysis doesn't even contemplate the pending free agents that don't count toward next year's cap right now, and can't be brought back unless they agree to play for the league minimum:

Peters
Mills
Sudfeld
Robey-Coleman
Curry
Ridgeway
LeBlanc
Rodgers
Boston Scott
Gerry
Greg Ward
Clement

None of those guys are really total difference makers, but guys like Curry, Ridgeway, Scott, Rodgers, Robey-Coleman, and Ward have been decent players this year who will get offers elsewhere and need to be replaced with cheaper, worse options (likely in bigger roles, too) and Mills and Gerry are starters who need to be replaced, although not good ones.

The mismanagement of the Eagles personnel is so staggeringly bad that Howie really does deserve to be fired twice. I have no idea how they are even going to get out of this. It may not even be possible to get out of it. I know they will have to restructure a bunch of huge contracts, which just pushes the cap issues into the future, so the hole Howie dug for this franchise is going to take years to fully recover.


Hurtz didnt look at that great. The eagles was down 23-16 and had the ball and nothing came out of it. All the media keep showing is that TD he threw in garbage time while down 23-3 lol
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Old 12-09-2020, 07:47 PM
 
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Hurtz didnt look at that great. The eagles was down 23-16 and had the ball and nothing came out of it. All the media keep showing is that TD he threw in garbage time while down 23-3 lol
Hurts should get a shot because Wentz has been a train wreck, but expectations should be tempered for a rookie playing behind a Swiss cheese O-line in a dysfunctional organization. The team is basically white flagging the season (and I mean, why not at this point?).

The bigger point is that Roseman's job as GM has been historically atrocious, and if he doesn't get fired for the mess he's created, then I really don't know what it would take for him to actually get fired.
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Old 12-10-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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Here's another fun fact about the cap mess Howie has created. If in the offseason, the Eagles release every player not on a guaranteed contract, they will be left with a 10-man roster, and that 10-man roster will be $34m over the cap. At this point, I'm not even sure if it's mathematically possible for the team to get under the cap for next year, but it's obvious that it's going to entail a number of big dollar contract restructuring and post-June 1 designated cap cuts, which just pushes the cap woes into future years. This is really infuriating.
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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Here's another fun fact about the cap mess Howie has created. If in the offseason, the Eagles release every player not on a guaranteed contract, they will be left with a 10-man roster, and that 10-man roster will be $34m over the cap. At this point, I'm not even sure if it's mathematically possible for the team to get under the cap for next year, but it's obvious that it's going to entail a number of big dollar contract restructuring and post-June 1 designated cap cuts, which just pushes the cap woes into future years. This is really infuriating.
It's definitely going to be messy regardless. Hey, maybe Hurts will suck, we'll lose out, get the third pick next year and take one of the top college QB. Third time's the charm
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:26 AM
 
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It's definitely going to be messy regardless. Hey, maybe Hurts will suck, we'll lose out, get the third pick next year and take one of the top college QB. Third time's the charm
After seeing the Flyers twice get the #2 pick in a draft where there was 1 bonafide superstar and then watching both #2 picks suck, it would be a really Philly thing for the Eagles to get the #3 pick in a draft with 2 consensus franchise QBs in it (i.e. Lawrence and Fields). LOL.
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Old 12-10-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Go birds!
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