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I've met white people worked up about Columbus and Frank Rizzo, never a POC though, especially a black philly resident. Patronizing racist white people are determined to fix black folks' lives I guess; because they can't do it themselves (this is the real hypocrisy these white losers will always mushroom cloud or, if female, start crying about when they realize the contradiction, hypocrisy, and how racist that actually is)...the ''voter suppression'' scam is another good one...''black people don't have IDs...black people don't have internet access and if they do, they don't know how to use it''...smh and cringe.
When I lived in the Gayborhood and rode the 40 bus to my job at Penn, I regularly struck up conversation with a middle-aged Black woman who got on the bus at 20th Street.
I would characterize her politics as a bit to the left of my own (I describe mine as left-libertarian; yes, there is such a thing).
In the runup to the 1987 rematch between Frank Rizzo and W. Wilson Goode — a race where I said that each candidate was running against the only person they could possibly beat — she said to me one morning that she and a bunch of her friends and neighbors were saying, "Let's do Frank this time."
As I said, more complicated and complex than either his fans or his critics allow. There was something positive those Black women saw in him, or they wouldn't have talked like that.
I think his willingness to stoke white racial fears damages his legacy, seriously so in my book. But it doesn't wipe it out completely.
Sorry, but "commie DA" is a statement of opinion, not fact. It's a common trope on the American right to tar anyone on the American left with the brush of Marx and Lenin.
Granted, some on the American left, like Bernie Sanders, make this easier to do, but regardless what you think of Krasner's policies, I haven't heard anything from him to suggest to me that he's a socialist. I'd be happy to read quotes to the contrary if you have them.
you can call it a trope, but where there's smoke, there's fire.
Krasner is the current version of commie: "cultural marxist''. Bernie Sanders, it's not just easier to call him a socialist; he is one, a full-blown, red diaper baby, old-school Soviet Union-Castro loving Communist.
Krasner's not going to announce he's a Socialist, he's a disguised 60 y.o. ''progressive''..."It's an exciting day when you see the Frank Rizzo statue, which is basically our confederate general, go away...Peace, unity, everybody coming together. No more white supremacist provocation, thank you very much."...why would the City's top law enforcement official have any comment or opinion on this issue? Larry must have ''read'' or ''heard'' about Frank Rizzo; certainly nointent to create any racial division with this comment I'm sure.
Krasner didn't like Zhoe Biden in 2019 due to Zhoe's crime legislation and creating ''mass incarceration'' yet Krasner was in favor of a socialist President, though more along the lines of the malleable and oppressed Native American Elizabeth Warren.
Sanders Blue Guards hit the streets for Krasner, and socialist groups like the Democratic Socialist of America backed him. Why do socialists like Krasner so much, what is his appeal to them? Sanders cheered and embraced Krasner's DA victory. Why is the communist U.S. Senator from Vermont even commenting on the local Philly DA race? Why did so much outside $$ come into Philly to get Krasner elected in 2017? One particular donor gave Krasner more $$ than his election opponents spent in total.
Why is Krasner picking-n-choosing which laws to enforce? Why is stealing private property not a crime in Krasner's mind yet is a crime according to the law he's obligated to enforce? Forget effective ''broken windows'' laws, this guy's gun prosecution record is abysmal and blames the NRA for Philly's gun violence. Why is Philly's top law enforcement official creating an atmosphere of lawlessness?
Yet Krasner vociferously condemned Port Richmond residents (white people of course) who took it upon themselves to protect their lives and private property by stating in part ''their actions only add to the hurt caused by George Floyd's killing by police'' should the top law enforcement official be saying something like this? He couldn't intend to stoke racial division.
''This is the old, racist, brutal guard'' describing PPD union leadership. Krasner advocates ''fewer prisons and fewer cops''.
Yet the key to cultural marxism is racial division and creating an atmosphere of lawlessness because crime is not the fault of the individual as the blame lies with the oppressive capitalist class structure. Wonder what these ''useful idiots'' living in the oppressed U.S. think when they see Cubans waiving American flags in their protests against actual oppression or Afghanis riding on and falling from airplanes to escape?
No doubt Larry's little azz and all his socialist/marxist cohorts were 1st in line though, as usual, for racist Trump's paid-for-by capitalism vaccine...lol.
When I lived in the Gayborhood and rode the 40 bus to my job at Penn, I regularly struck up conversation with a middle-aged Black woman who got on the bus at 20th Street.
I would characterize her politics as a bit to the left of my own (I describe mine as left-libertarian; yes, there is such a thing).
In the runup to the 1987 rematch between Frank Rizzo and W. Wilson Goode — a race where I said that each candidate was running against the only person they could possibly beat — she said to me one morning that she and a bunch of her friends and neighbors were saying, "Let's do Frank this time."
As I said, more complicated and complex than either his fans or his critics allow. There was something positive those Black women saw in him, or they wouldn't have talked like that.
I think his willingness to stoke white racial fears damages his legacy, seriously so in my book. But it doesn't wipe it out completely.
As do and did many white and black politicians willingly stoke white and black racial fears, with or without statues or murals as part of their legacy.
Same applies for any national, local, social, community ''leaders''...or anyone memorialized by statues, murals etc....anyone can find flaws with anyone, especially from the past.
When I lived in the Gayborhood and rode the 40 bus to my job at Penn, I regularly struck up conversation with a middle-aged Black woman who got on the bus at 20th Street.
I would characterize her politics as a bit to the left of my own (I describe mine as left-libertarian; yes, there is such a thing).
In the runup to the 1987 rematch between Frank Rizzo and W. Wilson Goode — a race where I said that each candidate was running against the only person they could possibly beat — she said to me one morning that she and a bunch of her friends and neighbors were saying, "Let's do Frank this time."
As I said, more complicated and complex than either his fans or his critics allow. There was something positive those Black women saw in him, or they wouldn't have talked like that.
I think his willingness to stoke white racial fears damages his legacy, seriously so in my book. But it doesn't wipe it out completely.
Who is immune though from having a tarnished legacy, especially those from history? From Christopher Columbus, Jefferson, and Lincoln to recent civil rights icons Rev Dr Marting Luther King Jr and George Floyd, only the former have statues of them being torn down or otherwise under fire as their legacies are being blotted out in our current cultural cleansing.
No one's legacy, or life, as history shows, is safe when it comes to someone lying and manipulating as a means to a personal or political end.
I could care less what happens with the legacy of Christopher Columbus. Who actually really celebrates him? Who is actually offended by him? My guess is almost no one, aside from a few people are looking for something to complain about. I think my most memorable Columbus Day memory is getting a good deal on mattress from Sears. Its a meaningless holiday.
Interesting recap on race and mayoral elections. TLDR, race plays a role but its only significant when there is a racially polarizing figure like Rizzo and Street.
I could care less what happens with the legacy of Christopher Columbus. Who actually really celebrates him? Who is actually offended by him? My guess is almost no one, aside from a few people are looking for something to complain about. I think my most memorable Columbus Day memory is getting a good deal on mattress from Sears. Its a meaningless holiday.
Interesting recap on race and mayoral elections. TLDR, race plays a role but its only significant when there is a racially polarizing figure like Rizzo and Street.
Something I couldn't imagine happening now, from that article, describing Rizzo's first run for mayor in 1971:
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Rizzo won the Democratic primary. In the general election, black voters overwhelmingly supported Republican Thacher Longstreth, and Rizzo carried most of the city's white wards by overwhelming margins.
But then again, Republicans in the Thacher Longstreth mold no longer exist, or only a very few do.
FWIW, I was a Democrat for Katz in the 1991 rematch. And I'm sure some of you have seen (Black) documentary filmmaker Tigre Hill's movie about that election, The Shame of a City..
I could care less what happens with the legacy of Christopher Columbus. Who actually really celebrates him? Who is actually offended by him? My guess is almost no one, aside from a few people are looking for something to complain about. I think my most memorable Columbus Day memory is getting a good deal on mattress from Sears. Its a meaningless holiday.
Interesting recap on race and mayoral elections. TLDR, race plays a role but its only significant when there is a racially polarizing figure like Rizzo and Street.
Well, who is actually going to really be celebrating ''Indigenous Peoples' Day'' on Monday, October 11? Mayor Kenney? Is there a large number of Native American people living in Philly to kick-off the 1st Annual Indigenous Peoples' Day weekend let alone have any celebrations on Monday?
Wonder if there will be incidents at any remaining Columbus statues around the country?
Columbus Day, MLK Day, and Presidents' Day should all be cancelled holidays at this point.
Does anyone celebrate any holidays anymore? Maybe Memorial Day and Veterans' Day...but otherwise, these ''holidays'' are all just a day off anymore other than, as you state, getting a special sales day/weekend.
Well they will still hold the annual Columbus Day Parade this coming Sunday. Heads south on Broad, and ends at Marconi Plaza. Lots of good Italian food to be had in the plaza. Always a good time.
Of course the city does not fund the parade, same as all other parades.
Well, who is actually going to really be celebrating ''Indigenous Peoples' Day'' on Monday, October 11? Mayor Kenney? Is there a large number of Native American people living in Philly to kick-off the 1st Annual Indigenous Peoples' Day weekend let alone have any celebrations on Monday?
Wonder if there will be incidents at any remaining Columbus statues around the country?
Columbus Day, MLK Day, and Presidents' Day should all be cancelled holidays at this point.
Does anyone celebrate any holidays anymore? Maybe Memorial Day and Veterans' Day...but otherwise, these ''holidays'' are all just a day off anymore other than, as you state, getting a special sales day/weekend.
Many of the Lenni-Lenape people - who previously inhabited land that included the Delaware Valley - were forcibly dispersed to Oklahoma. Per this link, some remain in this area today. It's unclear whether they were invited or have agreed to appear in any city ceremonies.
Fair point about holidays being devalued when so many people are compelled to work and the meaning of those days aren't reflected upon by many or most.
The observation of MLK's birthday - which is rarely on the actual day of January 15th - does often include a day of service in the spirit of what he endeavored to achieve. I don't believe eliminating the King holiday will get much traction, especially in a liberal, majority-minority city like Philadelphia.
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