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Old 04-16-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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Anything exciting going on? Will there be much to do and/or see for tourists?

Is there much about Alexander Hamilton (the person, not the disco music infused stage play)?

Also is the Sonesta a nice hotel? I think it was a Crown Plaza at one time.
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Old 04-16-2021, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Anything exciting going on? Will there be much to do and/or see for tourists?

Is there much about Alexander Hamilton (the person, not the disco music infused stage play)?

Also is the Sonesta a nice hotel? I think it was a Crown Plaza at one time.
I wouldn't hold my breath around any major events, given that our Governor and Mayor have been about the most oppressive in the country with their restrictions, and have little regard for the local economy. Hopefully the tourists sites are operational, however. Independence Hall (where the Constitution was signed) and the Constitution Center are both highly related to Hamilton as one of the designers of the Constitution. Also, part of his time as Treasury Secretary would have been in Philly, and according to the below the Treasury Department was based out of Carpenters Hall at the time (while the First Bank of the US was being built).

https://www.visitphilly.com/articles...-philadelphia/

I've never stayed at the Sonesta, but I believe it is a nice hotel, and it's in a good location not far from Rittenhouse Square.
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Old 04-16-2021, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I wouldn't hold my breath around any major events, given that our Governor and Mayor have been about the most oppressive in the country with their restrictions, and have little regard for the local economy. Hopefully the tourists sites are operational, however. Independence Hall (where the Constitution was signed) and the Constitution Center are both highly related to Hamilton as one of the designers of the Constitution. Also, part of his time as Treasury Secretary would have been in Philly, and according to the below the Treasury Department was based out of Carpenters Hall at the time (while the First Bank of the US was being built).

https://www.visitphilly.com/articles...-philadelphia/

I've never stayed at the Sonesta, but I believe it is a nice hotel, and it's in a good location not far from Rittenhouse Square.
The economy is slowly opening back up and Pennsylvania has done a fantastic job of managing cases given the size of the state and population.

I applaud the state and its actions and Biden stepped in to help out States, Local Governments and even Restaurants with the latest stimulus package to help save lives.

Philadelphia most likely will not have a large parkway celebration.. but it will be more open than before and comparable to anywhere else in the Northeast.
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Old 04-16-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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The economy is slowly opening back up and Pennsylvania has done a fantastic job of managing cases given the size of the state and population.

I applaud the state and its actions and Biden stepped in to help out States, Local Governments and even Restaurants with the latest stimulus package to help save lives.

Philadelphia most likely will not have a large parkway celebration.. but it will be more open than before and comparable to anywhere else in the Northeast.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Do you know if there will be downtown fireworks thing like lots of places?
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Reports are coming out now from medical saying Covid spread out doors is extremely rare. Hopefully this is verified and we can start to assemble large gatherings outdoors.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The economy is slowly opening back up and Pennsylvania has done a fantastic job of managing cases given the size of the state and population.

I applaud the state and its actions and Biden stepped in to help out States, Local Governments and even Restaurants with the latest stimulus package to help save lives.

Philadelphia most likely will not have a large parkway celebration.. but it will be more open than before and comparable to anywhere else in the Northeast.
Not sure what you're talking about, but PA has the 11th highest covid mortality rate in the nation, in addition to the 9th highest unemployment rate. I would characterize that as a major failure by King Wolf.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:51 AM
 
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Not sure what you're talking about, but PA has the 11th highest covid mortality rate in the nation, in addition to the 9th highest unemployment rate. I would characterize that as a major failure by King Wolf.
Regarding COVID mortality, while one can debate how well Wolf handled the situation, one should also take into account:

1) the proximity to the "red zone" of the NYC metro;

2) the reluctance of the last Administration in Washington to confront the reality of the pandemic;

3) the tendency of said Administration to favor PPE in states whose Governors displayed the most fealty while shorting those who did not;

4) the significant plurality in the state - outside most medium-to-large cities - who often shared the previous Administration's disdain for virus protection protocols.

I don't think an in-person Made In America is a good idea this year or even necessarily fireworks. I do hope that our historic sites and other attractions are open - and that our city's residents continue to protect themselves and others as we round the corner on vaccination access.
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Regarding COVID mortality, while one can debate how well Wolf handled the situation, one should also take into account:

1) the proximity to the "red zone" of the NYC metro;

2) the reluctance of the last Administration in Washington to confront the reality of the pandemic;

3) the tendency of said Administration to favor PPE in states whose Governors displayed the most fealty while shorting those who did not;

4) the significant plurality in the state - outside most medium-to-large cities - who often shared the previous Administration's disdain for virus protection protocols.

I don't think an in-person Made In America is a good idea this year or even necessarily fireworks. I do hope that our historic sites and other attractions are open - and that our city's residents continue to protect themselves and others as we round the corner on vaccination access.
The mortality rate was high in PA, NY, and NJ because the governors of those states mandated that infected patients be admitted to nursing homes. As usual, Wolf was a follower and did it because Cuomo and Murphy did it first. The results were disastrous, with thousands of nursing home residents killed. At the same time, King Wolf also managed to destroy the PA economy. Wolf fared worse than almost every other governor in the country. That had nothing to do with anyone in Dc.
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Old 04-18-2021, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Not sure what you're talking about, but PA has the 11th highest covid mortality rate in the nation, in addition to the 9th highest unemployment rate. I would characterize that as a major failure by King Wolf.
Pennsylvania has one of the oldest median ages among residents in the US. This absolutely plays a major role in mortality.

Your logic is also flawed. If Pennsylvania already had one of the highest mortality rates, think of how much higher hospitalizations/death toll world have been WITHOUT a lockdown as strict as PA. The answer is: catastrophic. I'm not debating how the nursing home policy was handled, as there was likely some unfortunate errors in that regard, but that doesn't somehow negate the importance of "flattening the curve" at the onset of a pandemic.

You're also placing WAY too much emphasis on unemployment. You realize that doesn't account for people who've dropped out of the workforce completely, right? But regardless, you're focusing on a non-issue, as the lockdown is all but irrelevant now and Pennsylvania's economy is in reality on very firm footing as of last month's numbers:

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Pennsylvania jobless rate fell in March, as payrolls grew

In a separate survey of employers, payrolls in Pennsylvania expanded in February by 24,000, closer to 5.7 million.

Pennsylvania has regained about 60% of the 1.1 million jobs lost in the pandemic. It hit a record high for payrolls of 6.1 million in February 2020, according to state figures.
https://www.timesobserver.com/news/c...payrolls-grew/

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Old 04-18-2021, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Pennsylvania has one of the oldest median ages among residents in the US. This absolutely plays a major role in mortality.

Your logic is also flawed. If Pennsylvania already had one of the highest mortality rates, think of how much higher hospitalizations/death toll world have been WITHOUT a lockdown as strict as PA. The answer is: catastrophic. I'm not debating how the nursing home policy was handled, as there was likely some unfortunate errors in that regard, but that doesn't somehow negate the importance of "flattening the curve" at the onset of a pandemic.

You're also placing WAY too much emphasis on unemployment. You realize that doesn't account for people who've dropped out of the workforce completely, right? But regardless, you're focusing on a non-issue, as the lockdown is all but irrelevant now and Pennsylvania's economy is in reality on very firm footing as of last month's numbers:



https://www.timesobserver.com/news/c...payrolls-grew/
Pennsylvania had the 9th highest unemployment rate in the country as of February. If you want to see an example of a state with a high average age of population, look at Florida. King Wolf has been a complete failure for the state.
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