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Old 02-15-2022, 07:31 PM
 
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Hi, I am looking for a neighborhood on the outskirts of Philly area to move to. Answers to 'starter questions' below.

Basically, I'm mid-50s SWM. I've spent some time in the Philly area when I lived in DE as well as when I lived in Princeton area. I luckily don't need to work anymore, but may work again at some point.

I am single (never married, no kids) and one of the reasons I am probably choosing the Philly area is that it seems like a good place to meet educated, attractive single women in my age range. (I’ve done my dating website research). I do want a long-term relationship. The other main reason is that I am a golfer (though I may quit some day, you never know) and golf in the desert, where I live now, is unsustainable, in my judgement, because of the lack of water, so it seems slightly amoral. Finally, Philly seems not too hot, not too cold, and less expensive than NYC, DC, or Boston (though I haven't ruled out the DC metro area to live). I don't want to live in any state south of VA and west of the Mississippi.

Chestnut Hill seems like it would be nice, but I can't see paying 3.8% tax vs. 0% (outside city limits) on my unearned income. I think I have that correct.

Some of the places I'm thinking about are Ardmore, Lafayette Hill, Flourtown, Glenside, etc. Any of those sound reasonable for me? any major differences between them? any other suggestions? I haven't really been to any of those places, but I've spent time in Mt. Airy, Center City, and South Philly.

Thanks!


When are you moving? maybe mid-May 2022
Where are you coming from? Albuquerque
Why are you moving? The desert is overpopulated. Not good dating or intellectual life here.
Where will you be working? retired-ish
Have you been here yet? yes

Will you buy or rent? rent initially, then hope to buy in a year or so
If buying, are you looking for a house or a condo? How much can you spend?
If renting, are you looking for an apartment, a townhouse or loft? open to any of those. would like a garage and a place to live that is not noisy. at least 2BR, ideally 3 BR.
How much can you spend? unlimited, but I don't like to waste money
Do you prefer hi-rise or walk up? probably walk-up, but haven’t given that a lot of thought

Do you have a preference of living in a NJ or PA suburb? probably PA, but would consider counterarguments

Are you married or single? single
Do you have children? no
Do you prefer public or private schools? n/a
Do you have pets? no
Do you want or need a yard? don't need, don't care either way
Are you keeping a car? yes
Do you prefer bustling activity or calm and quiet? calm and quiet, but near enough to center city or other places that seems like a good place to have a date or meet people
What do you want to be closest to? educated women to date
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Old 02-16-2022, 04:52 AM
 
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You didn't answer the diversity question.
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Old 02-16-2022, 07:22 AM
 
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All of the towns you mentioned are comfortable enough places to live, especially for upper-middle class+ folks. Ardmore and Glenside in particular have organic town centers to patronize although it may not guarantee meeting other middle-aged singles. Both towns also have convenient commuter rail (Regional Rail) that will take you into Center City where your chances of meeting 40-50something singles may be higher. As you may recall, Center City parking is tight and expensive and I'm conscious of your desire to be mindful of your spending. FWIW Ardmore is part of the Main Line, a string of particularly affluent "old money" towns. So that differentiates it from your other considerations.

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Old 02-16-2022, 07:26 AM
 
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Hi, OP, I don't see any one area around here as being better than others for dating. It just depends on what you like to do and how you go about meeting women. Do you go to clubs/bars? Are you a foodie or into casinos or sports or art? It just depends on what you like to do. You mention wanting a quiet area so I think overall, you are best to avoid the city.

The Philly area isn't a major dating hotspot if you ask me but I'm sure you can meet women via online dating.

Outside of dating, what other kind of other hobbies do you like? That might impact where you might want to live.

You mention educated women so I think you might be able to meet women around a university area or area with a lot of professional level jobs. Check out King of Prussia. This area has some very nice apartments located in a town center with some restaurants and bars, there are outdoors activities nearby (biking and walking trails) and some fitness clubs and whatnot (many women like to do yoga or go to fitness clubs). The King of Prussia mall is huge and as you know, women LOVE to shop. So my first thought for you is King of Prussia. It's somewhat centrally located around many main arteries and although there's no public transportation into the city, you can easily drive into the city on a weekend or take Uber if you want to go to a club.
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Old 02-16-2022, 03:21 PM
 
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I haven't been in the dating scene for decades, but I would think that the quality of the dating scene in the city is probably better for younger people. For older guys, there's likely less difference between the city and the burbs. For example, in Newtown, there are a couple bars known to be places for meeting singles, mostly middle aged since this is an affluent suburb. I would guess other suburbs are similar. In terms of golf, you are much better looking in the suburbs than in the city. There are few to no golf courses in the city proper, which means you would be driving out of the city every time you want to play. Courses are plentiful in the suburbs.

As far as which towns, there are a lot around the area that are nice. Here in Newtown is likely one that fits the bill, but not the only one. Ardmore/Lower Merion is a good choice as well, as are other Main Line locations (Narberth, Wynnewood, Wayne, Malvern, etc.). There are also very nice areas of Montgomery County (Jenkintown, Glenside, Ambler). You just need to look around and see what you like best.
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Old 02-16-2022, 05:12 PM
 
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I haven't been in the dating scene for decades, but I would think that the quality of the dating scene in the city is probably better for younger people. For older guys, there's likely less difference between the city and the burbs. For example, in Newtown, there are a couple bars known to be places for meeting singles, mostly middle aged since this is an affluent suburb. I would guess other suburbs are similar. In terms of golf, you are much better looking in the suburbs than in the city. There are few to no golf courses in the city proper, which means you would be driving out of the city every time you want to play. Courses are plentiful in the suburbs.

As far as which towns, there are a lot around the area that are nice. Here in Newtown is likely one that fits the bill, but not the only one. Ardmore/Lower Merion is a good choice as well, as are other Main Line locations (Narberth, Wynnewood, Wayne, Malvern, etc.). There are also very nice areas of Montgomery County (Jenkintown, Glenside, Ambler). You just need to look around and see what you like best.
Bala Golf Club in Wynnefield and the Union League Golf Club at Torresdale in Frankford are private clubs in the City (the latter part of the Union League, a longtime elite social club based on Center City). Philadelphia Cricket Club has its main clubhouse in Chestnut Hill, along with a nine hole short course, and two eighteen hole courses not too far outside the City in Flourtown and Plymouth Meeting. There are plenty of golf and country clubs in the nearer and second ring suburbs with no shortage of city-dwelling members.

What kind of club are you looking for? If you really have money to burn, you may like Squires, a men’s-only club near Ambler that is home to quite a few bigwigs and has a legendary gambling scene. The course itself is all right—a decent enough layout, and very well-manicured—but it’s more known for being a high-roller boy’s club with lots of mystique. My uncle used to belong there.

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Old 02-16-2022, 06:18 PM
 
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Bala Golf Club in Wynnefield and the Union League Golf Club at Torresdale in Frankford are private clubs in the City (the latter part of the Union League, a longtime elite social club based on Center City). Philadelphia Cricket Club has its main clubhouse in Chestnut Hill, along with a nine hole short course, and two eighteen hole courses not too far outside the City in Flourtown and Plymouth Meeting. There are plenty of golf and country clubs in the nearer and second ring suburbs with no shortage of city-dwelling members.

What kind of club are you looking for? If you really have money to burn, you may like Squires, a men’s-only club near Ambler that is home to quite a few bigwigs and has a legendary gambling scene. The course itself is all right—a decent enough layout, and very well-manicured—but it’s more known for being a high-roller boy’s club with lots of mystique. My uncle used to belong there.
I'm thinking I'll probably just play public courses (outside the city mostly) for a while. I don't mind driving a bit to play golf, and I like to see/play different courses. May think of joining a private club at some point.
Thanks.
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Old 02-16-2022, 06:37 PM
 
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Hi, OP, I don't see any one area around here as being better than others for dating. It just depends on what you like to do and how you go about meeting women. Do you go to clubs/bars? Are you a foodie or into casinos or sports or art? It just depends on what you like to do. You mention wanting a quiet area so I think overall, you are best to avoid the city.

The Philly area isn't a major dating hotspot if you ask me but I'm sure you can meet women via online dating.

Outside of dating, what other kind of other hobbies do you like? That might impact where you might want to live.

You mention educated women so I think you might be able to meet women around a university area or area with a lot of professional level jobs. Check out King of Prussia. This area has some very nice apartments located in a town center with some restaurants and bars, there are outdoors activities nearby (biking and walking trails) and some fitness clubs and whatnot (many women like to do yoga or go to fitness clubs). The King of Prussia mall is huge and as you know, women LOVE to shop. So my first thought for you is King of Prussia. It's somewhat centrally located around many main arteries and although there's no public transportation into the city, you can easily drive into the city on a weekend or take Uber if you want to go to a club.
Yeah, online dating has always been the major way for me. Also, sometimes meetup.com. I'm not much of a drinker. Occasionally one to be social, two if I feel like I must.

When I lived in the waay outskirts of Philly for a few years (15 or so years ago), I sometimes would meet for dates at the Art Museum or the jazz clubs on Broad Street (maybe there were about 1 and a half jazz clubs downtown back then--don't know if they still exist). Those and other museums and central proximity to meet people from other suburbs are the main reasons I'm thinking of being in reasonable proximity to downtown.

You're right, though. It is a balancing act to be near people and things to do and wanting to be in a quiet place. I guess I'd err on the side of losing the quiet/secludedness for now.

Thanks for the King of Prussia suggestion. I am somewhat familiar with that area--at least from driving past it quite a few times. Seems like too far from there to want to go downtown on a weekday evening, though, but maybe I'd feel that way about Ardmore or Jenkintown too depending on how traffic is.

What is traffic like from those places to go downtown on a weekday evening? I can't see doing anything but driving my own car (or going in a friend's car) downtown. I like having that control. :-) (If I were to go to NYC, that would be a different story. I wouldn't necessarily want to drive my car there.)

Edit: Actually King of Prussia is closer to downtown than Jenkintown on google maps, so maybe that's doable. Would Conshohocken be an ok place to live too?

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Old 02-16-2022, 07:03 PM
 
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As far as which towns, there are a lot around the area that are nice. Here in Newtown is likely one that fits the bill, but not the only one. Ardmore/Lower Merion is a good choice as well, as are other Main Line locations (Narberth, Wynnewood, Wayne, Malvern, etc.). There are also very nice areas of Montgomery County (Jenkintown, Glenside, Ambler). You just need to look around and see what you like best.
Thanks for mentioning those other places. Are any of the towns or neighborhoods around those clusters above not so nice? Ones I might want to avoid living in?

I definitely need to look around, but am hoping not to have to make a scouting trip from Albuquerque before I move, so hoping to do as much research ahead of time.

I'm hoping google earth will be useful for getting an idea what places look like, and hoping to only have to spend a few days in a hotel when I arrive before I rent a place.
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Old 02-16-2022, 08:05 PM
 
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Thanks for mentioning those other places. Are any of the towns or neighborhoods around those clusters above not so nice? Ones I might want to avoid living in?

I definitely need to look around, but am hoping not to have to make a scouting trip from Albuquerque before I move, so hoping to do as much research ahead of time.

I'm hoping google earth will be useful for getting an idea what places look like, and hoping to only have to spend a few days in a hotel when I arrive before I rent a place.
Not really, to be honest. For most of the suburban town centers, the surrounding areas are just suburban sprawl developments, which are perfectly fine but don't have a lot of entertainment amenities. If you look in Bucks, you'll probably want to avoid lower Bucks south of Rte 1. (i.e. Levittown, Bristol, Bensalem, etc.). It's not terrible there, but it's a little rougher around the edges. Anywhere in Bucks north of Rte 1 is more what I think you're looking for (Langhorne, Yardley, Newtown, up to New Hope and out to Doylestown). If you cross City Line Ave on the Main Line into West Philly (Overbrook), it gets rough fairly quickly, but if you stay on the Bala Cynwyd / Wynnewood side of City Line out of the city, it's fine.
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