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Old 08-04-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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Actually do not try and equate me with the 'self-loathing' type attitude that this city is known for. I'm not from here and am trying hard not to let any of it 'get on me'
What I do loathe is actually not myself but most things around me at this point in time.
It sounds like it already has. Sure its everyone else's fault. HeyStuckPA, did you feel I attacked you personally by asking you "how can I help you move?"
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:04 PM
 
Location: TwilightZone
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Donations are always accepted
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:10 PM
 
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Donations are always accepted
Yeah, I didn't think so. But the moderator think so.
At least you have some sense of humor.
Hey how do I become a moderator? Oh wait, I got better things to do
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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Default My two cents

If Philadelphia was a person he would be Vin Diesel in "Fast and Furious". I've lived here for about ten years now. I've just graduated school from Temple University and I'm getting ready to leave. I've had my share. So for those of you thinking of moving here...here's my two cents. This is the point of view of a 24 year old white male from a middle class family who is generally a nice laid back guy.

I'll start with the good things. This place is old. When you walk the streets (especially old city) you really feel like you're in another time, or at least are reminded of it. This place has so much history and cool weird things about it I still don't feel like I've grasped even a fraction of it. Some of the streets are literally made out of cobble stone. This town was where the entire country was thought up. So that's pretty cool. Other good things- Plenty of young people. The young people give it this feeling of a city that's being redefined (or trying really hard). With all the schools and bars and cool stores, it definitely stirs it up. There's a lot of places to see music, see art, and do a bunch of historical things. Also-you can generally find a place to live for a fair price.

Now...here's the downside to Philly. All of these things I've just mentioned are contained in the very center of Philly, in a small area. The rest of Philly is URBAN DESOLATION. I'm not kidding. In all directions spanning out from Center City it is really bad. If you end up getting lost and end up in one of these places...yikes. I'm talking it looks like bombs went off there. I mean, there are parts that are coming up with brave young college students living there, but it's definitely a "watch your back" feeling all the time. It's a strange vibe that takes some getting used to, but I don't see why anyone would want to get used to that. And I will honestly say, with the large division of rich and poor, which has been going on for a LONG time, there is a huge racial tension here. Mainly black and white. I see it a lot.

It takes a hard shell to live here, but I guess it can give you an edge in a cool way. Certain types of people can definitely thrive here, but it ain't me. If you're considering it I would definitely recommend coming and walking around all the different parts and not just one.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:31 PM
 
Location: West Cedar Park, Philadelphia
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lol jk

Some of us take the glass half full approach, but moreover, you understand the problems the city faces but seek to understand the basis of the problems and how they can be changed. As a citizen of this country, I at least feel I have a duty to try and help protect a place I feel is important and valuable. If it's worth saving I'd rather be here.

I'm merely idealistic though, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Also, necromancy is frowned upon.
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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If Philadelphia was a person he would be Vin Diesel in "Fast and Furious". I've lived here for about ten years now. I've just graduated school from Temple University and I'm getting ready to leave. I've had my share. So for those of you thinking of moving here...here's my two cents. This is the point of view of a 24 year old white male from a middle class family who is generally a nice laid back guy.

I'll start with the good things. This place is old. When you walk the streets (especially old city) you really feel like you're in another time, or at least are reminded of it. This place has so much history and cool weird things about it I still don't feel like I've grasped even a fraction of it. Some of the streets are literally made out of cobble stone. This town was where the entire country was thought up. So that's pretty cool. Other good things- Plenty of young people. The young people give it this feeling of a city that's being redefined (or trying really hard). With all the schools and bars and cool stores, it definitely stirs it up. There's a lot of places to see music, see art, and do a bunch of historical things. Also-you can generally find a place to live for a fair price.

Now...here's the downside to Philly. All of these things I've just mentioned are contained in the very center of Philly, in a small area. The rest of Philly is URBAN DESOLATION. I'm not kidding. In all directions spanning out from Center City it is really bad. If you end up getting lost and end up in one of these places...yikes. I'm talking it looks like bombs went off there. I mean, there are parts that are coming up with brave young college students living there, but it's definitely a "watch your back" feeling all the time. It's a strange vibe that takes some getting used to, but I don't see why anyone would want to get used to that. And I will honestly say, with the large division of rich and poor, which has been going on for a LONG time, there is a huge racial tension here. Mainly black and white. I see it a lot.

It takes a hard shell to live here, but I guess it can give you an edge in a cool way. Certain types of people can definitely thrive here, but it ain't me. If you're considering it I would definitely recommend coming and walking around all the different parts and not just one.
I totally agree with this person about the downside but I do not see an upside.

I own property in Philly and used to live there. I wish I had never invested in that God Forsaken cesspool. He's right about the class division and absolutely about the racism. I noticed this is an old thread but no one can dispute that Philly is a disgrace.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Now...here's the downside to Philly. All of these things I've just mentioned are contained in the very center of Philly, in a small area. The rest of Philly is URBAN DESOLATION. I'm not kidding. In all directions spanning out from Center City it is really bad. If you end up getting lost and end up in one of these places...yikes. I'm talking it looks like bombs went off there. I mean, there are parts that are coming up with brave young college students living there, but it's definitely a "watch your back" feeling all the time.
I agree with and respect with most everything you say except this portion...if only because you have not truly seen all of Philly. It's true that once you get out of Center City and the neighborhoods gentrfying around it, there are huge swaths challenged neighborhoods to contend with. But I'm guessing you may not have spent much time in the NW, NE, S and even SW parts of the city. Some of those neighborhoods are more interesting than others but none of them would be confused with "urban desolation"...at least from someone who appreciates older structures such as yourself.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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great observations for a young person. Dead on too. Center city is quite nice.. move 15 blocks in any direction and you are taking you life in your hands.. If anyone says that is not true, they are looking thru rose colored glasses. The NE is dead and should be buried. West, North and South Philly are too. I can't think of any section of the city that is on an upswing besides CC. Just look at the murder rate last year(was up again) The racial tensions(loos at the rack packs and flash mobs attacking people)... Heck, I have latino and AA's working for me that live in the city and are dying to get out... It ain't just the whites that are in flight..


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If Philadelphia was a person he would be Vin Diesel in "Fast and Furious". I've lived here for about ten years now. I've just graduated school from Temple University and I'm getting ready to leave. I've had my share. So for those of you thinking of moving here...here's my two cents. This is the point of view of a 24 year old white male from a middle class family who is generally a nice laid back guy.

I'll start with the good things. This place is old. When you walk the streets (especially old city) you really feel like you're in another time, or at least are reminded of it. This place has so much history and cool weird things about it I still don't feel like I've grasped even a fraction of it. Some of the streets are literally made out of cobble stone. This town was where the entire country was thought up. So that's pretty cool. Other good things- Plenty of young people. The young people give it this feeling of a city that's being redefined (or trying really hard). With all the schools and bars and cool stores, it definitely stirs it up. There's a lot of places to see music, see art, and do a bunch of historical things. Also-you can generally find a place to live for a fair price.

Now...here's the downside to Philly. All of these things I've just mentioned are contained in the very center of Philly, in a small area. The rest of Philly is URBAN DESOLATION. I'm not kidding. In all directions spanning out from Center City it is really bad. If you end up getting lost and end up in one of these places...yikes. I'm talking it looks like bombs went off there. I mean, there are parts that are coming up with brave young college students living there, but it's definitely a "watch your back" feeling all the time. It's a strange vibe that takes some getting used to, but I don't see why anyone would want to get used to that. And I will honestly say, with the large division of rich and poor, which has been going on for a LONG time, there is a huge racial tension here. Mainly black and white. I see it a lot.

It takes a hard shell to live here, but I guess it can give you an edge in a cool way. Certain types of people can definitely thrive here, but it ain't me. If you're considering it I would definitely recommend coming and walking around all the different parts and not just one.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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great observations for a young person. Dead on too. Center city is quite nice.. move 15 blocks in any direction and you are taking you life in your hands.. If anyone says that is not true, they are looking thru rose colored glasses. The NE is dead and should be buried. West, North and South Philly are too. I can't think of any section of the city that is on an upswing besides CC. Just look at the murder rate last year(was up again) The racial tensions(loos at the rack packs and flash mobs attacking people)... Heck, I have latino and AA's working for me that live in the city and are dying to get out... It ain't just the whites that are in flight..
I can't agree. I think there are some interesting and even nice areas besides Center City.

Philly has a lot of rundown ghettos. Make no doubt about that. It is a very gritty urban city with miles of modest rowhouses everywhere for working class people. Boston, for example, is more refined and gentrified. Philly is a blue collar town.

We are seeing the upswing in some areas such as Northern Liberties which is now a young, hip, "artistic" enclave with some good restaurants, pubs and galleries.

I live in West Philly - terrible right? - except I live in the University City district and all these large Victorian homes are now going for anywhere from $400,000 to $900,000, a local organization sweeps the streets, installed fancy historical street lights, planted trees, and there are "street ambassadors" roaming around reporting problems and will even summon someone to start your car if your battery is dead. I do not live in a blighted area or a slum, and it is relatively safe as far as large cities go.

Chestnut Hill and West Mount Airy are two neighborhoods is northwest Philly I would describe as lovely. It's always a pleasure to drive down Lincoln Drive.

There will always be some people who will paint a broad negative picture of the City of Brotherly Love, with one brush stroke - it's a hellhole. They ignore the fact it is a city that has great culture, some of the very best museums, an excellent range of restaurants and dining, fine universities, good hospitals, historic districts like the one I live in, surrounded by beautiful countryside, terrific live theater and music.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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I totally agree with this person about the downside but I do not see an upside.

I own property in Philly and used to live there. I wish I had never invested in that God Forsaken cesspool. He's right about the class division and absolutely about the racism. I noticed this is an old thread but no one can dispute that Philly is a disgrace.
Blah blah blah, you sound like a big baby. Its a disgrace that youre from NYC youre giving all of us Nyers a bad name. Also you say "you used to live here", which suggest you dont anymore. Well, why are you posting on the Philly forum??? Philly is an up and coming city and will contiinue to get better despite the naysayers.
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