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Old 03-02-2007, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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HI SF


Being from California....and coming out here, "Yes the city is divided"
My girlfriend wants me to move out there...and I am very hesitant.
I found that the whites dont really care who you are dating...It's the blacks who were ignorant. (Stares....etc...) I would visit first and go from there.
Good luck...
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Old 03-02-2007, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Dude this is absurd question. Its philly not Alabama. You'll be fine and nobody cares. Philly is actually divided more along economic lines then racial. Seriousily you'll be fine and don't worry about it...
Zippy:

Do you know where the Mason-Dixon line is? It is just south of Philly. This is where the South begins.

Philly feels a little like the south! I have been to both places. (IMHO!)
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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Rainrock,

please read what was written again, i didnt say that professional whites didnt have hate against blacks--so i am not sure who you are disagreeing with.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:54 PM
 
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i live there now, in CC, as a black professional and the whites will not burn a cross in your yard, we dont have yards ha ha, but they can show their hatred in other ways.

Its a constant argument among blacks here being treated a certain way, perhaps they are lying and there is no racism in Philly against black, then I will be wrong.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Rainrock,

please read what was written again, i didnt say that professional whites didnt have hate against blacks--so i am not sure who you are disagreeing with.
Above quote is a little confusing ,but anyways I never brought up white/black at all.

You did say that blacks had a tough time being accepted by people in center city, and I said I disagreed with that.

I see well adjusted black people everyday walking, talking, working with people of center city everyday.They get along fine with the people of CC. Its not about black people, its about a certain black culture. There are indeed serious problems in this regard.
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:46 AM
 
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as a professional black male living downtown, i see differently, but I am not going to argue with you if you see it a different way
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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I can't argue with first hand accounts but I hope not everyone you have met has been inhospitable. Is it a wide ranged bias or a select few?
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:43 AM
 
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i never say everyone, because i havent met everyone, but I would say that 70% are pretty hostile and 30% are genuinely nice to people of color. They pretty much tolerate(accept that we are here, but dont interact) with IRs and people of color.
Philly has a major bad problem with racial hostility that goes beyond class. In the poor and working class areas they fight one another from block to block--ie.SW Phila and the Northeast. The University of Penn is trying to push the poor blacks out further west, but in CC it is just hostility to anyone that is different.

I was taking my visiting aunt out to dinner last summer--she came up from the South for a week. we stopped in Rittenhouse Sq to sit and take in a lovely evening and the first thing happened and a white fellow was yelling the N word and jumped on an old black man. now i dont know who started it and dont care but the need for racist words to come out--in the richest section of town. wow. oh well my aunt was reassured that its not just the south that is racist, they have them here too and they dont have rebel flags to warn us.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Default Carolina Jack's Center City experience....WOW!!

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i never say everyone, because i havent met everyone, but I would say that 70% are pretty hostile and 30% are genuinely nice to people of color. They pretty much tolerate(accept that we are here, but dont interact) with IRs and people of color.
Philly has a major bad problem with racial hostility that goes beyond class. In the poor and working class areas they fight one another from block to block--ie.SW Phila and the Northeast. The University of Penn is trying to push the poor blacks out further west, but in CC it is just hostility to anyone that is different.

I was taking my visiting aunt out to dinner last summer--she came up from the South for a week. we stopped in Rittenhouse Sq to sit and take in a lovely evening and the first thing happened and a white fellow was yelling the N word and jumped on an old black man. now i dont know who started it and dont care but the need for racist words to come out--in the richest section of town. wow. oh well my aunt was reassured that its not just the south that is racist, they have them here too and they dont have rebel flags to warn us.


Carolina Jack:

I am curious, how long have you lived in Philly? I am from Southern California...and I have and will visit the city often. I am in an IR relationship too and felt the uneasyness in the city...and it was not from the White people!
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:18 PM
 
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i have lived here for 7 years and while the blacks do more of the agressiveness to us, the whites can be very racist in their own way, they usually try to avoid you and not want to look at you or smile or say hello--very cold. The blacks are more hostile nd will stare you down.

But i would not deter you from ever coming here. I am from below the Mason Dixon Line, lived throughout the South, latin america, went to University in New England and grad and law school in New York--and can tell you, this can be a lets say lonely place, not hostile cause people get upset when you tell them first hand what you have experienced, for black professionals who arent from Philadelphia. it is a very territorial place, so i know professionals who work and live in Center City and have never been to Chestnut Hill and feel it is an uncomfortable place because they think it is filled with rich snobs--it isnt and probably the most comfortable place for IRs in the city.
You can take the R8 commuter train there and be in the city in 25 30 minutes. Lots of IR couples, people are so pleasant and open and no hostility
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