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Old 04-16-2009, 08:48 AM
 
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Not at all, just educating the less-learned. The lack of knowledge about the region is staggering as displayed by the general lack of knowledge on the PA forum about anything outside PA. The NJ forum is far more intelligent on all areas in NJ and Philly. Not so here.
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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The lack of knowledge about the region is staggering as displayed by the general lack of knowledge on the PA forum about anything outside PA.
Almost as staggering as the difference in household median incomes from the Pa burbs to the South Jersey burbs.

Ouch

Chester County (PA) -$96,578 (21st) wealthiest county in usa.
Camden County(NJ)-$58,857

2007 Gross Adjusted Income by County

Chester $96,578
Montgomery-$86,685
Bucks-$77,180
Burlington-$71,763
Delaware-$69,181
Gloucester-$63,807
Camden-$58,857
Salem-$56,857
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:46 AM
 
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Civil debates that neither stray from the original topic nor devolve into familiar talking points and personal attacks will lengthen the life of threads like this one.
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Old 04-17-2009, 06:07 AM
 
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2007 Median Family Incomes of the greater Philly area in NJ. Plus the data are old.

Burlington $85,000, Mercer $85,000, Gloucester $83,000, Camden $70,000, Salem $70,000

The City of Camden drags down Camden County's income data by about 30%; Burlington County is the largest county in NJ by land mass, about half of it is outside the Philly metro area thus including lower income households that should not be included. The city of Trenton pulls down Mercer. Plus you have low income, affordable housing in the most of the NJ data.

The only counties that are clean are - Gloucester which has relatively little affordable housing so it's numbers are roughly accurate. Salem is probably accurate as well.

The adjusted numbers are roughly - Burlington $98,000, Mercer $95,000, Camden $91,000, Gloucester $83,000, Salem $70,000.

Of course what cannot be debated, is that Philadelphia County, which BTW, should also include the City of Camden for analysis, is one of the poorer counties in America, and comprises the largest concentration of residents in the region. So when you aggregate the total net wealth/income by household in Philly metro in PA and divide by the number of residents in PA, the average income in PA is not going to be close to NJ whether you adjust the NJ data or not.

And, sorry, that is what is reality Rocker.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:32 AM
 
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LMAO, Philadelphia ranks 6th poorest county in America with 1.5 million people.

So income in the PA metro area is roughly 60K accounting for all counties by size. This compares to $79K for NJ counties (unadjusted). That's 30% higher.

So, it's little wonder why that $5 million estate in Moorestown is 25% higher than comparable homes in Villanova.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
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Moorestown is NOT the only town in NJ that you should consider when moving to Philly. There are lots of possibilities in NJ - depending on what you want your town to look like and what length commute you are comfortable with. For example - Collingswood and Haddonfield have more of a city feel with a main street of shops and restaurants. Cherry Hill is a bedroom community with great public schools and a decent commute to center city. There is also a train from south Jersey to center city - or to the Jersey Shore (only $4 to Atlantic City). The housing stock in J is so much more affordable than the Phila burbs - it is certainly worth a look.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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Moorestown is NOT the only town in NJ that you should consider when moving to Philly. There are lots of possibilities in NJ - depending on what you want your town to look like and what length commute you are comfortable with. For example - Collingswood and Haddonfield have more of a city feel with a main street of shops and restaurants. Cherry Hill is a bedroom community with great public schools and a decent commute to center city. There is also a train from south Jersey to center city - or to the Jersey Shore (only $4 to Atlantic City). The housing stock in J is so much more affordable than the Phila burbs - it is certainly worth a look.
Great post. Thank you for reiterating what everyone else tries to tell MoorestownResident. Moorestown is not the center of the universe, and it's certainly not the only nice place to look in SJ.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
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Default NU Under $250k

There are really plenty of houses in NJ under $250 - no need to go to PA or Delaware. Try towns like Somerdale, Barrington, Stratford, Magnolia, Barrington, Audubon,Bellmawr - and these will be good condition homes - not rehabs. They are nice towns - not high crime areas - so if MOorestown is hot for you - there are LOTS of options in South Jersey.
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