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Old 05-28-2009, 04:47 PM
 
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NY has a helmet law, but I don't see safer biking behavior here. In the summer I often see riders with boat shoes, shorts, wife-beater tee shirts and a $300 helmet. Now technically they are within the law, but the chances they will severely injured are still very high. To borrow a quote from a favorite comedian of mine 'you can't fix stupid.'
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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I just hope all those dopes riding without helmets are organ donors!

I wonder if states with no helmet laws are correlated with more availability of kidneys, hearts, and livers. If I (or a loved one) were on a list for a heart, I guess I'd be cheering the no-helmet law!

If I were a legislator I'd have only agreed to sign the law change if everyone who decided to drive without a helmet signed up to be a donor. Like if you have no helmet on, you have to have a sticker on your bike showing that you're an organ donor. No helmet and no sticker? Get a ticket. Maybe when I rule the world.....
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Old 05-30-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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If I were a legislator I'd have only agreed to sign the law change if everyone who decided to drive without a helmet signed up to be a donor. Like if you have no helmet on, you have to have a sticker on your bike showing that you're an organ donor. No helmet and no sticker? Get a ticket. Maybe when I rule the world.....
Oh see, that's too simple and effective which is why the bureaucrats could not think of that.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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The people i know that ride (or want to ride) without their helmets are thumbing their nose at authority. It's not about safety to them. It is about Johnny law MANDATING that they MUST or else. Being a biker, is being a Rebel where i come from.
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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I'm an avid rider and I think anyone riding without a helmet is basically an idiot. And yes, helmet laws work, ton of data showing an uptick in mortality among riders after helmet laws repealed in a state.
U-M study: Fatalities double for motorcyclists without helmets
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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I commute by motorcycle when the weather is warmer than it is right now and I'm told States without helmet laws have much softer paved roads. In the event of a crash. the motorcyclists bounces on the road like on a mattress.


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I'm an avid rider and I think anyone riding without a helmet is basically an idiot. And yes, helmet laws work, ton of data showing an uptick in mortality among riders after helmet laws repealed in a state.
U-M study: Fatalities double for motorcyclists without helmets
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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The people i know that ride (or want to ride) without their helmets are thumbing their nose at authority. It's not about safety to them. It is about Johnny law MANDATING that they MUST or else. Being a biker, is being a Rebel where i come from.
Charles Darwin covered this in a book from the mid-1800s called The Origin of Species. This behavioral choice is examined in the chapters on "natural selection."
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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PtV beat me to it! I see it as a Darwin approach to weeding out the stupid.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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Lawmakers can, however, provide meaningful incentives to encourage responsibility and common sense. Applarently there was a demonstrable rise in organ donors when the helmet law was repealed. The helmet law seems to have changed people's behavior.
Eh, Darwin's Natural Selection in action - nothing more. I wish we'd do this with more idiotic topics. I'll never understand American's fascination with saving lives at all cost. I just read the other day about some hot heroin taking out life-long junkies down around K&A. Honestly, the hot bags are probably doing everyone, including the poor tortured souls of said addicts, a favor. But no, God forbid we use funding and resources for something that helps society. We need to spend millions of taxpayer dollars, not to address addiction, but to remove ONLY the tampered with baggies of junk from the street. After all, it's critically important we help save the lives of junkies so they can continue to shoot up, spread Hep C/HIV, commit petty crimes and suffer terrible addicted lives.

If any grown adult truly believes it is a good idea to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, I would actually encourage him/her to do so. Not sure we need that kind of logical deep thinker raising a family and sharing his/her wisdom...
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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The people i know that ride (or want to ride) without their helmets are thumbing their nose at authority. It's not about safety to them. It is about Johnny law MANDATING that they MUST or else. Being a biker, is being a Rebel where i come from.
Not sure why you bumped a thread that was 8 years old...but obviously you got a reaction. It was during Ed Rendell's governorship that the PA helmet law was repealed
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