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Old 11-28-2009, 08:37 PM
 
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To Simmer,
On Jan 16th 2008 at approx. 4:00 P.M. you posted some information about killing bed bugs with dry Ice.Well I'm jooles and I'm curious how that works.I know that dry Ice emits carbon Dioxide as a gas.But I also know that the Carbon Dioxide of Human breath is an attractant to them.So is it the cold temperature that killls them then?And how would I go about killing them with Dry Ice? I need to know the exact procedure please. Please respond. thanks Jooles in Tacoma Washington (State) Thanks Again...
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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I want to know about the liability of the landlord. Do tenants have to stay in the apartment for months on end while the landlord is trying to get rid of them? Is this not a constructive eviction? Can tenants get a rent abatement for reduction in the quality of life??
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Old 07-03-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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I live in a small 2 bedroom apt. in South Philly. I have been going through the bedbug night mare for the last two days. I've had an exterminator, I've sprayed and vacuumed my room and washed my clothes. We seemed to have found a nest in the cover of our futon. We threw out the cover of the futon and vacuumed and sprayed the cushion with alcohol and bug spray.
Am I in for a long ordeal?
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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You might be. Remember, the spray does not kill the eggs so you might be in a merry go round situation where when the eggs hatch you are in the same problem. What did the exterminator do? Also, they might have not just be in the futon. they might have been in baseboards near the futon or somewhere else. They might be IN the futon is well. You have to inspect EVERYTHING.
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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What's with these recent posts that look like they were put through an online translator?

Anyway, I had my place exterminated. had the guy come back 3 months later. put diatomaceous earth everywhere i thought a bed bug might try to hide, vacuumed like crazy, reapplied, vacuumed again, ad infinitum.

I brought them home from a hotel but didn't put 2 & 2 together until a few weeks later - mostly because i had no idea what they were until I saw one crawling on my bed. Anyone who has them can bring them into your house. A few Abercrombie stores in NYC were shut down recently because they had infestations.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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This post is old, but I thought I'd see if you're still on here Simmer. I live in Philly and have been having unexplained bites since about November (or even earlier).. Moved into a rental property in July. The place was filthy when I moved in and I thoroughly cleaned the place from to bottom. I removed dusty, dirty curtains from the windows, took down ugly, dusty wall decorations (place was furnished) and thought I had done a good job cleaning.

Anyway, when I started getting bitten, I had no idea what could have been causing this and then suddenly they started getting much worse and much more frequent this month. I only get bites when I'm sleeping; they look like pin size dots in rows; I must be allergic to them as they are scarring and itchy and look terrible. I work in a health clinic and my boss said they look like bed bug bites. I then went to a doctor and she said the same thing. Since realizing what they were, I contacted my landlord. He then got an exterminator in right away, but he told me that the exterminator quickly replied that he could find no bedbugs or fleas. My bed hadn't been moved, sheets weren't taken off, etc.. so I just couldn't understand how they could diagnose no problem without really looking. Next, I contacted another exterminator who told me over the phone B4 coming that I would need to find the evidence, show them and that they would then and only then be able to diagnose the prob. I frantically looked everywhere, all under the bed, moved the mattress, scrubbed again all under the bed and looked around near the walls.. no evidence. I found little black specs and thought maybe that was residue or something from their waste, so saved this. When the exterminator came out, he quickly glanced at the black stuff I saved and said it was dirt, then told me, "If you had bedbugs you'd know it, they're the size of apple seeds. I can't find something you don't have." I was going out of my mind at this point, just so upset (haven't been sleeping and doing a masters program while working and doing an internship and totally uncomfortable and wasting all of my time trying to figure this out).. started crying.. and he proceeded to say to me, "so what do you want.. just to talk to someone, is that what you're looking for?" I felt like such a nut. I tried to figure out next steps, but he was totally unhelpful and when I asked about him inspecting for me (seeing that he's supposed to be the expert), he said, "I really can't find something that's not there". I asked him if this is common for people to have bites and not be able to find the bugs and he said no. He told me at this pt. that I'd have to pay him to look and that the other option was to pay for the specialist dogs. I just had no idea what to do and figured he was not going to find anything from what he said. My landlord then showed up while he was leaving and as I have no proof, doesn't want to pay for anything.. and was also refusing to get rid of any of his belongings that I have stored under the bed (ugly wall decorations and old curtains), which I had wanted to get rid of so that at least I could limit the potential items they could infest. He is telling me as I rented a furnished place, I have no right to tell him to remove anything and that if I don't have proof of any infestation, he is not going to remove his things or pay for any pest control.

Basically, I'd love some advice. I am so confused as to what to do. I am a student and therefore have limited money to spend on this, especially if I'm just going to spend hundreds for someone to tell me there's nothing to find. I also have very limited time and am eating into all of my studying time with all of the energy I'm spending on this problem. I feel anxious all the time and totally a mess. I feel like my landlord should be responsible. I can't imagine that there aren't bedbugs as these bites keep happening whenever I'm there at night and I have scoured the web trying to diagnose any other potential, but haven't come up w anything else that it could possibly be. The bite pictures I see online always look exactly like what I've got. I've been staying at my parents' house, cleaning my stuff in hot water as soon as I get to their house and not getting any new bites when I sleep there.

The only other factor is that I spoke to a woman on my floor in the building and she said that another tenant was going through a similar thing with bites last year and that when the exterminator came, they told her she didn't have bedbugs, but had something else. She had no idea what that something else had been and this woman has moved out now.

Could anyone advise me as to what I could possibly do? Should I pay for another exterminator myself to actually search for me? Is it possible to have bedbugs without being able to find them? Could it be any other pest? What rights do I have? I would so appreciate any advice.

Thanks in advance so much.
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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What's with these recent posts that look like they were put through an online translator?

Anyway, I had my place exterminated. had the guy come back 3 months later. put diatomaceous earth everywhere i thought a bed bug might try to hide, vacuumed like crazy, reapplied, vacuumed again, ad infinitum.

I brought them home from a hotel but didn't put 2 & 2 together until a few weeks later - mostly because i had no idea what they were until I saw one crawling on my bed. Anyone who has them can bring them into your house. A few Abercrombie stores in NYC were shut down recently because they had infestations.
Luckily I've never had personal experience with bedbugs and I mean to keep it that way.

Being in the deep south I have an exterminator come to the house once a month to spray... the only bugs I've find inside is the very occasional (once or twice a year) flying cockroach and they are always dead when I find them.

But I talked to him about cockroaches and what is surprising is the class distinction... more "upper class" people are getting them than "lower class". Seems upper class people have more money, travel more, stay in motels more often and there you go.

Our exterminator told me some of the very nicest, well kept and upper income houses in town have had bed bug problems but people won't tell because they associate it with lower class while the opposite is true.

Stay away from yard sales. Never any used furniture.

Avoid motels whenever possible and if you do go to a motel do not place your suitcase on the carpet. Same with clothes etc.

Examine the bed closely before you open your suitcase or sit down. Peel it back completely and take a good 10 minutes to examine the bedding.

Wish they would bring back DDT.
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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The only other factor is that I spoke to a woman on my floor in the building and she said that another tenant was going through a similar thing with bites last year and that when the exterminator came, they told her she didn't have bedbugs, but had something else. She had no idea what that something else had been and this woman has moved out now.
Find somewhere else to live. I'm serious. If there was a problem in a different apartment on your floor last year, that means the building or floor is infested, not just your apartment. Exterminating your particular apartment won't do anything. Cut your financial losses and save your sanity.
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Wish they would bring back DDT.
Me too! We don't have bedbugs but the whole idea of them makes me insane.

I'm a freak when we travel! If DDT were legalized, I would be a calmer person.
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Hai,
I live in suburb of Philadephia. We have been in the appt. for about an year. Now from few months, we found that we have bedbugs in the appt. and informed the management. They are saying that we brought them in and we have to pay for them. They are billing almost $800. It seems very problematic for me. I don't love bedbugs niether do I have a relationship with them... why would I bring them knowingly. The management says it will cleanup but it is asking us to pay. They are infact supposed to cleanup bugs but he says they just take care spiders, bugs and donot cover bedbugs
What should I do? What are my options?
Thank you.
Call the health department. Report the complex. I doubt that you are the cause, you probably got them from another neighbor, they will travel. In my opinion, your apartment complex needs to take care of this problem, and the health department can enforce that. We had a problem in my town in an apartment complex, you have to do the whole complex, as they will go from apt. to apt. I read somewhere that steam can kill them, I would invest in one of those steam mops, or the shark hand held. I have heard that they can be cormant for 2 yrs....scarey. Good luck
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