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Old 07-09-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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It's safe to say that Philly doesn't dominate influence like NYC, LA, Chicago or DC does.

It would be one thing if there were still a lot of Quakers around. The area seems to llike to highlight it's historical aspects. Only other thing I see binding together the region is the prominent healthcare industry (couldn't we say that the Valley is the premier medicine economy area in the country?).
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:07 PM
 
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I said the suburbs, obviously Philly is a destination. To answer your other question - New Hope is not a Philly suburb it is part of the greater region. Coincidentally I'll be there Friday night for the first time in 20 years. The others are not at all destinations, I have zero reason to go to Doylestown or West Chester. There is just nothing to do outside of local conveniences in the PA burbs other than the two big malls. Hell, you can't even get a good piece of pizza in the PA burbs.


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Old 04-18-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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There's a lot more to do in NJ than there is PA. You've got the shoreline, Cape May, Atlantic City, Wildwood, Ocean City, plus large park systems like Wharton State Forest, great restaurants, destination and high-end shopping in Cherry Hill, Marlton, Haddonfield, Voorhees, Moorestown. Plus you have better access to Philly and points north and south. As for not knowing the term 'Delaware Valley' maybe you are not native to the area. Anyone who grew up in the Philly region knows the area is referred to as the delaware valley. There is no destination in the PA burbs outside of the KOP mall and Franklin Mills and the only time I set foot in FM is to go to a couple outlets.
I was born in west philly, and my parents moved us out when I was five to avoid the atrocious philly school system. My parents got divorced right after we moved out to the burbs, because of that Iwas raised all over the region; I went to school at Hancock elementary(Norristown), Cold Spring elementary(Willow Grove), Upper Moreland Middle school(Willow Grove), DeMasi Middle School(Marlton, NJ), Eisenhower Middle School(Norristown), Pennsauken Highschool(Pennsauken, NJ), and finally graduated fro Upper Moreland Highschool(Willow Grove), and have lived in Ogontz/Mt.Airy/Cheltenham/Elkins Park, Center City, West Philly(by penn), Germantown, South Philly, Abington, Willow Grove, Norristown, Valley Forge, Ambler, Pennsauken NJ, Marlton NJ, Cherry Hill NJ, and currently live in cheltenham, and have family and friens all over the region. So I'm an expert on the "Delaware Valley" and can tell you that the quoted statement above is absolutely ridiculous.

I have lived on both sides of the river and am not biased, but the PA burbs are far superior to the NJ burbs, Its all in the layout(the close-inPA burbs are more pedestrian friendly with alot less highspeed highway-type traffic). While its inconvenient to live without a car in any suburban area, it is almost impossible in most of SJ's burbs. SJ burbs have a more sprawled out feel to them, and whats this about SJ is more accesible to the city? It cost money to get over the bridge, and aside from PATCO which just serves a thin corridor, SJ's mass transit is lacking compared to SEPTA. There are no SJ burbs more accessible to the city than the Darby/Delco burbs, and SEPTA, for all its ills, is still one of the best transportation networks in the country.

PA lacks destinations? what?. I know south jersey aint talkin. AC and the shore points are the only reason that most on the PA side ever go to Jersey. I go to Cherry Hill sometimes, but thats just to see the old man. Who goes out to the burbs for a destination anyway? Thats why they're called burbs, if you got money you can afford to sleep away from most if not all of the riff-raff present in the city, so by thier very nature they are not gonna be destinations, because Philly is THE destination for the entire region, unless you want to go to the mall. If your looking for fun and excitement go to NYC.

Don't even get me started about some of the school districts in the Camden burbs, ohh I mean.... South Jersey burbs.

As for the OP's original question, I identify more with the Delaware Valley, than the entire state, but think they should change the name to simply Metro Philadelphia as opposed to the Delaware Valley which can be misleading to outsiders. They should also, and probably will eventually, consolidate most of the tiny fragmented townships to save money on duplicate services, but thats a topic for a whole nother thread.

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Old 04-18-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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New Castle Co. in Delaware also got left off the list. I'm not from here originally but I've always heard Greater Philadelphia, the Delaware Valley and the "tri-state area" used to refer to the region to varying degrees. I guess each one means something a little different but they all include the core of the region.

As far as "jersey being all sprawl" that's just ignorance perpetuated by people who just drive through on major highways on their way to the shore. All you have to do is drive through the old towns along River Rd, Route 537, Haddon Ave., Atlantic Ave, Route 45, etc. to know that isn't true. There's no less sprawl in PA than in NJ.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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They may have the same amount of sprawl, but the PA burbs, in genreral, definitely have a more cozy/ reassuring feel to them IMO.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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They may have the same amount of sprawl, but the PA burbs, in genreral, definitely have a more cozy/ reassuring feel to them IMO.
I guess it's just a matter of taste. When I'm in places like Collingswood, Haddon Heights, Audubon, Merchantville, Mt. Holly, etc. I get that cozy feel. I find a lot of the old mill towns in PA isolated and depressing. There are some cutesy places here and there (the county seats) but they're the exception.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:15 AM
 
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I spent most of my life in the Delaware Valley & that's what I identified with. Philly is the hub in the wheel.

It is, as someone else said, very Mid-Atlantic. The reason that the whole area has a "different" feel is because of the Quaker influences, & there are lots of Quakers still there. Just because they don't dress like the Quaker Oats guy doesn't mean that they are not still there. I had Quaker teachers, bosses, friends & neighbors. The best private schools in the region are the Quaker schools (& Episcopal Academy).
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:17 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I grew up in the pa burbs and Philly. Put 48 years in so I know this area well. We now live in south jersey. Put 2 and 2 together..

No comparison folks. None, what so ever.
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