Will Philadelphia ever get back over 2,000,000 in population? (York, California: 2013, university)

[buck wilder]

Philly is two cities, one is poor and one is rich. That's why using stats the way you do can only lead to erroneous conclusions. Boston and SF each have about half the actual metro population of Philly, but half of Philly is dead-broke and living in the ghetto. However, the other half is very productive and that's why Philadelphia is still a great city, matching Boston and San Francisco for culture, cuisine, the arts, higher education etc. etc. etc.

Philly is a dynamic city that is changing quickly, and that change is occurring right now. Your have a huge misconception of what's going on in Philly, I can tell you that.

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Philly's had 5x the homicides DC's had this year with just 2.4x the population. And just fewer than 20 percent of it's adults have college degrees. It simply isn't gentrifying and attracting educated people to the extent Boston, NY, and DC are.

[buck wilder]

Who's the bully? You are, troll. Cut the idiotic analogies, will ya?

Originally Posted by slo1318

^chip....
Philly is more like the guy that was a bully in high school, and now the underlings are all growed up and doing their own thing......

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Philly's had 5x the homicides DC's had this year with just 2.4x the population. And just fewer than 20 percent of it's adults have college degrees. It simply isn't gentrifying and attracting educated people to the extent Boston, NY, and DC are.

DC and Philly both are terrible in the homicide department, although DC has historically always been among the worst. Not sure what your point is. Also, I believe Center City has one the highest percentage of adults that have advanced degrees, if not the highest in the country. Why would the rate of college degrees be high throughout the city when it was the Industrial epicenter of the country for so long? Again, horrible barometer.

But to answer the question, of course Philadelphia will reach 2 Million again. The gentrification of neighborhoods throughout the city is remarkable and Center City and University City continue to grow and expand. The bones and architecture are amazing, even in the poorest neighborhoods. Population level increases in the past year alone have already matched the population increase from 2000-2010.

Housing prices will continue to decline in cities like NYC and Boston, which were bloated to ridiculous levels while Philly remained level. This will do wonders in the years to come for affordable cities in the Megalopolis like Philadelphia and Baltimore.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Philly's had 5x the homicides DC's had this year with just 2.4x the population. And just fewer than 20 percent of it's adults have college degrees. It simply isn't gentrifying and attracting educated people to the extent Boston, NY, and DC are.

Kiplinger says otherwise.

Originally Posted by Kiplinger

Since 2000, the number of college-educated young adults living in downtown Philly has jumped by 57%. Young people have long flocked to the area for college, as more than a dozen universities lie within city lines. But increasingly, trendy neighborhoods and high incomes at companies such as Comcast and Sunoco are pulling singles in to stay. Now, one in two Philadelphians is unmarried, one in five is between 20 and 34, and one in three holds at least a bachelor's degree.

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by buck wilder

Who's the bully? You are, troll. Cut the idiotic analogies, will ya?

Wow, thats special coming from you. A quick scan of your posts....
And you replied to that twice!

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by *Sweetkisses*

Actually in real life, I think Philly is a very modest city. Unless its sports.

I think that can be true. Ive got several cousins there and they seem to like it.....

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Philly's had 5x the homicides DC's had this year with just 2.4x the population. And just fewer than 20 percent of it's adults have college degrees. It simply isn't gentrifying and attracting educated people to the extent Boston, NY, and DC are.

You do realize, however, that the violent crime rate is still higher in DC, even with Philadelphia having more murders, per capita? That's the most telling statistic of all:

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010..._hightolow.pdf


In terms of attracting college graduates or not gentrifying, you're simply wrong. Of course, on a percentage basis, much less of Philadelphia is gentrified and educated than smaller cities like Boston and DC. However, you generally just seem to be unaware of recent trends here:

Census shows young adults are being drawn to the city - Philly.com

[buck wilder]

Repetition works. So long as somewhere, deep inside you realize you don't know what you are talking about and you are only here to argue about B.S., as is the case with so many others on this site.

Originally Posted by slo1318

Wow, thats special coming from you. A quick scan of your posts....
And you replied to that twice!

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Some neighborhoods have homes on huge suburban style lots, just as Los Angeles does in many areas.

"Some" means at least one. So yes, some neighborhoods in Philadelphia do have homes on suburban lots. But how many people in Philadelphia actually live in something other than a rowhouse or apartment building?

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Not really. Los Angeles has a larger physical area of 10,000+ persons per square mile than Philadelphia.

In fact, many areas of Philadelphia has well below 10,000 persons per square mile, but is over 10,000 because the denser areas bring the overall average up.

Los Angeles could have 3 times its current population and still not feel any more urban or be any more conducive to public transit than it is now. As Eric Eidlin wrote in his article, "What Density Doesn't Tell Us About Sprawl":

Many urbanists admire Los Angeles as well, of course, but recognize that it is often a difficult place to walk, bike or use public transportation. However, planners who seek to emulate Boston or New York, or to avoid the less desirable elements of LA, will go astray if they simply focus on increasing density.

http://www.uctc.net/access/37/access37_sprawl.shtml

In other words, it's LA's physical design that takes away from its urbanity, not its lack of population density.

Philadelphia is unique not just because of its high population density, but also because of its very dense, compact, urban design that makes driving and parking in the city a complete pain in the a** over a very large area (and inversely makes walking a much more feasible option than it is in most cities).