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View Poll Results: Is Metro Philadelphia - N.J. a Racist Region?
Yes I think so! 44 24.86%
Moderately Racist. 52 29.38%
Maybe a little bit. 44 24.86%
Not at all! 43 24.29%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 177. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-03-2007, 02:48 PM
 
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Philadelphia is ok if you dont mind being considered a second class citizen if you are black. the whites either do like you for being black or they think all blacks are criminals, uneducated and poor.

So you get the liberal pity or the mainstream avoidance. Some neighborhoods you will find open hostility--a cross was burned in an Interracial couples yard last year(Id say that was racist) or the whites will clutch their purses and cross the street if they see you coming--and this is in the most liberal areas of Philly-except Chestnut Hill.

Even if you are in a suit and work for Brown Brothers or an attorney, whites will ignore you or think you are suspect. There are some good people here of all races, but i think most hold a very archaic view of race and race relations--even with an Ivy League school near downtown, the population is not very enlightened.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:34 PM
 
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Philadelphia is ok if you dont mind being considered a second class citizen if you are black.
I wouldn't think they are considered a second class citizen in Philadelphia,especially being that 'the brothas are runnin the city' some are saying. The mayor is black and the majority of the good paying city jobs are held by blacks.

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the whites either do like you for being black or they think all blacks are criminals, uneducated and poor.
I also wouldn't say they all necessarily think the blacks are uneducated and poor,we have plenty of whites(or at least white trash) that seem to be uneducated and poor. The crime maybe though,if one would turn on the tv news any night of the week you would see most of the reports from the same neighborhoods all the time. That would kind of set a pattern of sorts in ones mind.
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:43 PM
 
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Talking Philadelphia Not Ready for Racial Harmony

I must admit that I am 32 years old and have lived in this city for a great deal of my life but have also lived in both the midwest and the westcoast as well. I have also travelled through the south as well so I can give you a very clear perspective of the city of Philadelphia from someone who knows it so well. I will admit that this city has a very bad racial history that has existed fae before I was born and its legacy can still be felt today in this city through its inhabitants both black , whites and by other races although Philly only sees black and white traditionally. The atmosphere that pervades virtually every institution and community in this city is one reminiscent of the antebellum south break the breakout of the civil war. Yet I have to say objectively as someone who is a latino of dark complexion that this sentiment exist on both sides of the race line. People tend to think in exponential figures when it comes to race here , meaning the thoughts or actions of one represent the truth for the total sum of a people. The city is not very hard to figure out in the sense that whites here tend to thrive on fear which the local media disgracefully tends to fuel which in turns fosters hatred which is almost instinctual. The mere sense of ettiquet and universal social graces go out the window and are replaced by behavior which is animalistic and barbaric by the standards of any civilized society. This is keep a vicous circle alive which creates a hostile minority pupulace and makes an outsider confused as to where such vicousness began. Truthfully yes racism does exist everywhere but every region and its local poulace have there own individual history which may has headed either towards some sense of reconciliation or has worsened over the years. To this example Ill place a city like Boston that many claim so identical to Philadelphia and where race riots even took place in the late 70`s over the school busing issue. This city has a much different feel than the city of Philadelphia does and I can only speculate as to what may have happened over the past 30 plus years. One major change would be the influx of people from other regions and countries, the growth of commerce and job opportunites and I guess it also helps to have some of the best learning institutions in the area. Local Politics has done more to agravate the issue than to help it over the years, with a black mayor who bombed an entire black neighborhood being re-elected over a racist white one who line up blacks naked against a street corner wall when he was police chief. A white or black mayor stand as some kind of status symbol to people when in truth the only people they ever helped were themselves and their own cronies. Regarding the white mayor who did that , after his death he now has a statue of himself erected in the center of town where the pidgeons can do to him what he`s done to this city all of his life. People dont also understand the ethnicity issue when it comes to whites because in this city places that are heavily irish like the northeast or heavily italian like south philly have racism which is reminiscent of Nazi Germany whereas more ethnically mixed areas of whites from different religions and european backgrounds tend to be much more enlightened. I guess speaking from the perspective of a hispanic I can see and hear the thoughts of both as well as know what it feels like to be seen as some unwashed unruly savage by people whom have never known me nor heard me speak. I lived in minneapolis that for the two years i have lived there was much more liberal, open diverse and devoid of a long cumbersome history of hate like you`ll find here. My ex girlfriend was tall Nordic blonde from Minnesoate and we face unbelievable behavior which would be diagnosed as insanity by any medical professional yet it is accepted as normal behavior here and a racist is hailed as a victim here in Philly. I cam back east after my father fell ill and have been here for a year now but look foward to returning out west as soon as I can for there is nothing here for anyone who seeks an educated populace with a sense of diversity and hermony and all fronts. When it comes down to it racism is as destructive to the racist as it is to the repient because it seals you in predictable, stagnant place where true growth of any sense becomes impossible. My recommendation to you is that you seek peace in an area more readily accepting of your endeavor. Good Luck
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:20 AM
 
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stuckpa,

the current mayor said that in the 2003 election after being challenged by a white candidate-"the Brothas are in charge of this city Now" I found that a racist statement just as the ray nagin statement.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:08 PM
 
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Some city neighborhoods are defined by the predominate ethnicity of their residents who may not necessary welcome "outsiders". There are some long-standing diverse areas already mentioned here that have thrived for a long time. Then there are the transitioning neighborhoods whose long time residents (often without merit) fear a change in their home values, property taxes and just the mere presence of the new arrivals. All of these people likely bump up against each other in Center City at one time or another, whether for work or leisure.

I grew up as a black kid in a predominately white neighborhood in a relatively diverse northern suburb. Some neighbors - probably kids themselves - showed their "appreciation" for my family's arrival in 1975 by throwing rocks and shooting BBs through our window. After several months to a year, they realized we weren't going anywhere and those annoyances stopped. If I had any problems in school, it was more for being a "nerd" than being black. I remember my mom advising me about certain establishments that didn't look too friendly. Some stores at the mall and such seemed to watch me more than other shoppers. After I graduated college, my mom moved a whole two miles north of my childhood home.

Basically, I feel that the city of Philadelphia has a diversity of residents if not neighborhoods. I believe that areas like Center City, University City and West Mount Airy are among the most diverse. Unfortunately, these are also among the most expensive. I think lower-income city or suburban neighborhoods of any ethnicity may be the least welcoming to diversity. I've never had any problems when I headed out to visit people and places like, say, along the upscale Main Line. But I wouldn't doubt that other minorities may have.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:18 PM
 
Location: New Holland, PA (20 minutes from lancaster)
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philadelphia is so used to different people. just look at the ethnicity chart on the philadelphia stat page. there are over a hundred ethnicities and people in philly don't have a problem since they've seen people date other people from other races. don't worry about it.
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:06 AM
 
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Unfortunatly and very sadly the reality is you will have a difficult time. Thats just the nature of people who can't accept anything different.People don't see that if you are good human beings and truly love each other what difference does it make what color your skin is.I believe you'll have an easier time closer to Philly, definatly not in the suburbs. People live in their own world and you would most likely be the talk of the down (how sad, but I'm being honest with you).
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Is that all you Philadelphian's have to say? Come on now!
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:18 AM
 
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Not sure what else I can add, that hasnt already been said? Sure it's not as "progressive" as the West Coast may be, but this isnt the Deep South or the Midwest. Like most of the cities in the NE corridor, Philly has a diverse racial mix that branches out into the suburban communities. Interracial relationship are nothing new here. Some people may have an issue with it, but i'd suspect thatst he case wherever you go. If you stick to the 5 county Philadelphia area, you should be fine.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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I see mixed couples all over. When I say "all over," they aren't actually "everywhere," but I see them often.
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