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Old 03-31-2013, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I'm glad someone finally confirmed this.
You can thank me later.

 
Old 03-31-2013, 02:47 AM
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Location: Florida
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Everyday scienctist discover they were wrong
And discover that ancient religion was wrong.

The difference is that science has a process in place to validate new information and use it to improve itself, while many ancient religions work hard to rationalize their failings and even fight against remediation.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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God created the Universe, including science and people. Until I see scientists CREATE entire universes then, there's no way anybody can ever convince me otherwise. Scientists=small potatoes.
Actually with string theory and experiments with subatomic particles there is a possibility that scientists will be able to create tiny universes.

I found an article:

Sentido.tv :: Science :: Physicists in Japan Plan to Create New Universe in Lab

Back to the original post, while this may be interesting and possibly revolutionary if these guys were or are successful it still doesn't mean we are replacing God with science. God (or any higher higher intelligence) and science can still coexist. These experiments and our theories only show what method was used and how it was done in a more detailed way.

On a side note, it would be really interesting and kind of mind-screwing to find out our universe started out in some laboratory of creatures trying to understand their universe. Maybe they have forums in that universe debating on whether their god's existence conflicts with their science.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:25 AM
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Back to the original post, while this may be interesting and possibly revolutionary if these guys were or are successful it still doesn't mean we are replacing God with science. God (or any higher higher intelligence) and science can still coexist. ... Maybe they have forums in that universe debating on whether their god's existence conflicts with their science.
The use of the word "their" is important, in the context of this thread. It's appropriate, and quite important, in the context of God. The failures of religion generally isn't not a generic failure, but rather a specific failure: A specific conception of God, i.e., the Roman Catholic conception of God, the Protestant Christian conception of God, the Jewish conception of God, etc. So while referring to "their god" make sense and cuts to the heart of the issue, by contrast, there is no such thing as "their science". Science, by definition is common, encompassing even conflicting understandings of something for which definite proof elevating one conception over the other eludes us. That one aspect of science, the acknowledgement of the Whole and every perspective's rightful place in shaping our collective understanding of the Whole, is actually what's missing from the religions within which most of the failure occurs.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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God and science DO exist in my world.
 
Old 04-06-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I am kind of jumping in here but I think in time science will prove religion wrong and more then likely prove there is no god but on that one I am not so sure.
 
Old 04-06-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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God and science DO exist in my world.
So they exist in everyone's world. I get it.
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