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Old 08-03-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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It is terrifying because the common sense of identity is with our bodies, and we know that our bodies WILL die.
But consider who it is that is reading this - is it your body, or your conscious mind?
Consciousness is energy.
And you know that energy never zaps out of existence but simply changes form.


How does it change form and when? I have no idea.
But that it does, it is extremely probable - so much that I don't doubt it.
It's helped to consider consciousness as energy, which it is, and it's especially helped for me, having spiritual experiences. Look into Near Death Experiences in which distant events are confirmed... in other words, a person's body is pronounced clinically dead, and his/her consciousness travels to witness something they come back to explain and such event is confirmed.


It is naïve of anyone to consider that they know everything, and that there is nothing left to learn. Just because we THINK we KNOW things based on our limited subjective view of this tiny world in an infinitely gigantic universe - is pretty narrow minded.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkGeOWYOFoA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4gKoN4yPzy4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4


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I agree. Many things about life and death that we could not possibly know. But humans, generally speaking, are a very arrogant, egotistical species, one that likes to believe that it has the awareness and the intelligence to answer the unanswerable.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:22 PM
 
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Every day could be your last. Every moment could be your last. No one knows when we're going to die. Why dwell on it? Just live each day as if your life could take a sudden and huge life altering change. Try not to live with regrets. Be happy. Not much else you can do really unless you want to sit around and think about your death all day....no thanks! I'm alive and need to get on with living.
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Old 08-04-2016, 01:00 AM
 
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Op.
Do you remember being upset at not being alive in 1756?

No?

Then you probably won't care in 2245, either.
You are right, and I know that once i'm actually dead I won't actually know or care about it, but still it scares me and depresses me to think that I will never exist or experience anything again for all eternity.
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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[quote=Mvpix1212;44988368]No one escapes death.
We will all die.
As a materialist atheist - I believe there is nothing but matter in the universe -no god , gods , spirits soul or anything ONLY atoms.

I believe we are our bodies more precisely our brains.
Our consciousness is a result of our brain.
And once we die, and our brain decomposes, that's it, we will never exist or experience anything for all eternity.
How do you handle that fact?.
To me it's terrifying and depressing that I will never experience anything again for all eternity.[/quote

It does not matter WHAT you believe. What is IS.
BTW I am a Christian.
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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That sees like a sad way to live. I'd rather believe in God and eternal life than think that this little time on earth is it. To each their own I suppose but if I was a non-believer I would live a short and reckless life and be a horrible person, cuz there would be no consequences for my actions!
Peace
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:00 AM
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That sees like a sad way to live. I'd rather believe in God and eternal life than think that this little time on earth is it. To each their own I suppose but if I was a non-believer I would live a short and reckless life and be a horrible person, cuz there would be no consequences for my actions!
Peace
Its the other way around, this is your one life - so make the most of it. It'd be sad to waste living your only life in some prescribed way based on the hope of getting a "prize" of everlasting life at the end. Especially if you chose the wrong religion! And really - is it that hard to accept that this is the only life. Is it hard to accept that when a monkey dies that's it. Or when a great whale dies or a 200yr old tree dies that's it? No not really. Its human narcissism that makes it difficult for us to accept our own deaths as the end of us.



Plus not acting in a horrible way just because you think you will be punished in an afterlife is a pretty awful way to be a human. It goes to an underlying lack of moral fabric. How about because this is how you want the world to live in to be - decent, humane, civilized? People do that all the time - some religions don't even have the concept of a rewarding magical afterlife and yet those people live well and humanely towards one another.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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We will all die.
I know isn't it exciting! A new adventure!

In the 70s there was a psychological test going around...
There is a lake...you are in the middle ...how do you feel?
Something like that ...then what you felt had to do with 'something'...
your relationship to your mom, for example...

One question was...Picture yourself in an all white room ...no windows or doors...like
a cube of white...How do you feel?

I'll come back in a day and tell you what that relates to.
You can keep your list of feelings to yourself.
Oh...you're supposed to have THREE feelings...the strongest... usually the first feelings you get.

It is not off topic.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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You are right, and I know that once i'm actually dead
I won't actually know or care about it, but still it scares me and depresses
me to think that I will never exist or experience anything again for all eternity.
Speaking about the depression part...do you feel scared or sad when you are sleeping?
Probably not.
Do you feel scared to fall asleep?
Probably not.
Just thought if you thought along these lines it might help with the anxiety about not existing.

(Maybe this has already been brought up.)

It's nice to hear you seem to enjoy life, tho.
It seems kind of fun to think there is nothing else...so enjoy enjoy enjoy, I say...
why waste time thinking about some 'future' ....or past for that matter.
Be here right now and find the fun in the moment, my opinion.
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Old 08-04-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Speaking about the depression part...do you feel scared or sad when you are sleeping?
Probably not.
Do you feel scared to fall asleep?
Probably not.
Just thought if you thought along these lines it might help with the anxiety about not existing.

(Maybe this has already been brought up.)

It's nice to hear you seem to enjoy life, tho.
It seems kind of fun to think there is nothing else...so enjoy enjoy enjoy, I say...
why waste time thinking about some 'future' ....or past for that matter.
Be here right now and find the fun in the moment, my opinion.

Thanks for trying to help me, but again the difference is that when I go to sleep I know ( or hope at least )that I will wake up in the morning, from death there is no waking up, it's forever, it's an eternal sleep.
That's what scares me about it.
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Old 08-04-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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MVpics,
You have no idea what happens after death - because you've never lived to tell about it!
Yet, you're imagining up stories that make you feel anxious and depressed.
WHY?
If you don't know, then why not consider the alternative?
Research that as much as you did the other, and see which makes you LIVE better.


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I agree. Many things about life and death that we could not possibly know. But humans, generally speaking, are a very arrogant, egotistical species, one that likes to believe that it has the awareness and the intelligence to answer the unanswerable.
Yeah, you're so right!
There's a fine line between realizing how utterly clueless we are... and having confidence to risk believing and living passionately!
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