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Old 04-09-2021, 03:39 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Yes, killing just isn’t justifiable unless you are actually confronted with a life-threatening situation, and even then you can’t translate it to a whole sector of society. In other words, if I were attacked by, say, a midget, and feared for my life, it could be justifiable to kill that individual, but not to kill all like him or her.

Paranoia isn’t a reason to kill. I don’t even think Hitler was paranoid, just prepared to take power and follow through on whatever he said to get there.
He was likely paranoid. I read a short biography of Hitler once which mentioned the fact that his amphetamine usage worsened as time went on and he did in fact become legitimately paranoid. Not sure if that account is conclusive (I will now google!) but the telling of the story was authoritative enough to make a believer out of me.
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Old 04-09-2021, 03:52 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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[Mod cut: rude!]Again, referencing philosophers and their accompanying theories (opinions) does not equate referencing immutable objective fact.
Yawn. You can do better. Kant's universal law and categorical imperative is not my 'logical fallacy'. That said, you've contributed nothing but (nonsensical) insults and overly simplistic statements rather than any attempt to discuss philosophical concepts and universal principles of ethics, as it pertains to a thread in a Philosophy Forum. My point was not simply to reference it - but to introduce it for further discussion (and/or expect the introduction/discussion of others as well). My mistake, as I expected (some sort of) contribution from at least a few who could/would go beyond one-dimensional (meaningless) opinion/insults with a substantiated basis/logical reasoning in which to openly and intelligently discuss the subject of morality as it pertains to killing specifically, per the thread. Obviously, I was wrong; and I don't have the time/interest in the nonsense and grade-school antics/behavior over intelligent discussion. Enjoy!

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Old 04-09-2021, 04:03 PM
 
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I think he does; otherwise, he would not be a hangman. His is not the only profession that people go into to pursue a dream career. Lots of jobs are lousy but the only way to earn a living. Garbage men, prostitutes, slaughterhouse butchers, you name it. Think about the guy piloting a strategic nuclear bomber or captain of a nuclear sub. They sleep well too, and they had better.
...i appreciate your input but you missed the entire point of my post, carry on...
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Old 04-09-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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...i appreciate your input but you missed the entire point of my post, carry on...

Your point is that killing is a conscious act of the individual regardless of societal decree. Right? And you wonder if individuals who kill other people as an agent of the state would sleep well and unaffected by a troubled conscience. I said they are all sleeping quite well all over the world as we are reflecting on this matter. Am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Old 04-09-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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Yawn. You can do better. Kant's universal law and categorical imperative is not my 'logical fallacy'. That said, you've contributed nothing but (nonsensical) insults and overly simplistic statements rather than any attempt to discuss philosophical concepts and universal principles of ethics, as it pertains to a thread in a Philosophy Forum. My point was not simply to reference it - but to introduce it for further discussion (and/or expect the introduction/discussion of others as well). My mistake, as I expected (some sort of) contribution from at least a few who could/would go beyond one-dimensional (meaningless) opinion/insults with a substantiated basis/logical reasoning in which to openly and intelligently discuss the subject of morality as it pertains to killing specifically, per the thread. Obviously, I was wrong; and I don't have the time/interest in the nonsense and grade-school antics/behavior over intelligent discussion. Enjoy!
...vainglorious, carry on...
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Old 04-09-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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Your point is that killing is a conscious act of the individual regardless of societal decree. Right? And you wonder if individuals who kill other people as an agent of the state would sleep well and unaffected by a troubled conscience. I said they are all sleeping quite well all over the world as we are reflecting on this matter. Am I barking up the wrong tree?
...unless you're a dog, yes...

...you know for a fact they're all sleeping well?...this one isn't...and i personally know a whole bunch of guys that aren't either...so, you don;t know what you're talking about...
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:35 PM
 
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...unless you're a dog, yes...

...you know for a fact they're all sleeping well?...this one isn't...and i personally know a whole bunch of guys that aren't either...so, you don;t know what you're talking about...

Wow, you are one heck of a philosopher.
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Old 04-10-2021, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I (mistakenly) assumed people were able/open to (logically) discuss philosophical concepts and universal principles of ethics (which are applicable to the thread), given the fact it's a Philosophy Forum. :-)
Ha - this is c-d! The Psychology forum is even more lacking and hilarious.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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Ha - this is c-d! The Psychology forum is even more lacking and hilarious.

This is depressing.

You saying we are all here just for fun?
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Old 04-10-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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Wow, you are one heck of a philosopher.
...not really...but i am good at calling out blowhards who, because they have read a few articles and saw a few movies, form their lofty world view, that when held up to real world circumstances, fail miserably...
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