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Old 07-24-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I figure we are all here by astronomical odds. Of the 100 million sperm released during an ejaculate, the one sperm cell that contained my exact DNA makeup is the one (out of 100 million) that fertilized that specific egg. Apply those same odds to my ancestors. And on top of that, the millions of ancestors I have had were all able to procreate before dying or being killed. If just one of them was eaten at birth, I wouldn't be here today.

After all that trouble to make me, I figure I should at least see what it is all about. Also, I like living. When I no longer exist, it is likely that I will be indifferent about it all, but for now, I am having fun, so I may as well ride it out as long as I can.
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Old 07-27-2020, 07:52 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I don’t mind going off into oblivion but dying to get there seems a little drastic.
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Old 07-28-2020, 05:26 PM
 
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This latter point is basically the OP's. If my apartment's floor so soon gets dirty, why do I ever bother cleaning it?
I have been messing around with the idea lately that the most fundamental experiences we have as humans are all derived from the structure of our universe.

Our universe is likely to die of heat death because there is not enough mass to cause a universal contraction. This means entropy will win in the end. We all observe in life that "things fall apart". But in another universe with different cosmological constants, is that true? Could a universe destined to expand and contract back to a singularity have an opposite problem of not enough chaos or randomness? Are there extremely rare universes which can exist in a steady state eternally where balance is considered the prime directive?
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Old 07-28-2020, 07:55 PM
 
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Before Covid, I redid my will, living will and so forth. The directives are clear. I don't even want CPR. Now with Covid, I have reiterated, no ventilator. Go with dignity. I've had a good run on this side of the ground. That said, most people on both sides of my family live into their 90's so I have a ways to go I suppose.
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Old 07-29-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I think a lot of people over think the inevitability of death. Reality is the present moment. The past and the future are illusions and are not worthy of contemplation.
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Old 07-29-2020, 02:51 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I think a lot of people over think the inevitability of death. Reality is the present moment. The past and the future are illusions and are not worthy of contemplation.

What if they are all happening at the same time?

Doesn’t that make them also the present? And if that’s the case, are they still illusions?
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:36 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I think a lot of people over think the inevitability of death. Reality is the present moment. The past and the future are illusions and are not worthy of contemplation.
That the past and future may be illusory doesn't make either 'unworthy' of contemplation.
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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Why bother trying to stay longer?
I found the guy who doesn't care about the future and isn't intrigued by the course of our species, our planet, man's technological evolution, etc.

This man has no dreams.
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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I think a lot of people over think the inevitability of death. Reality is the present moment. The past and the future are illusions and are not worthy of contemplation.
Spoken like a true child with no life experience.

History shapes your future. The current moment has no context or guidance without the past and the future.
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Old 07-31-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Thank you. Your user name pretty much describes your immaturity and lack of intellect.
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