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Old 05-10-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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Do they have more respectable characteristics and instincts? Are they more wise to avoid humans?
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:25 PM
 
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Nobles are by strict definition a social class just below ruling kings and monarchs. How can you attribute nobility to an animal ? However if you’re talking about faithfulness, loyalty and blind devotion then you’re on to something.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:46 PM
 
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How do you define noble OP?

Animals behave in a genuine, honest, or virtuous manner...they have one primary motivation. Do what it takes to survive and carry on their genes. They don't get sidetracked by other less important things. Staying true to their purpose may be noble...even if it requires deception.
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:17 PM
 
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Nobles are by strict definition a social class just below ruling kings and monarchs. How can you attribute nobility to an animal ? However if you’re talking about faithfulness, loyalty and blind devotion then you’re on to something.
Strict but archaic definition.

Using our everyday definition nowadays, 'noble' = praiseworthy. Nowadays we'd say that an animal described as 'noble' would be 'anthropomorphized', or assigned non-human characteristics that in all likelihood do not apply to non-human animals.
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:46 PM
 
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Humans are the WORST animal on this planet so YES any other animal is far more noble!!
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Old 05-12-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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Nobility isn't a factor here. Nobility is a purely human concept. But animals stick to what is their own, and what is natural to them. They don't go around messing with balance, and recklessly doing things that affect other creatures and environmental conditions on a grand scale.

Animals (non-human) benefit by not having our worst traits. Even lacking our benefits, they still come out superior overall. Man needs to learn the value and benefit of leaving things alone, rather than putting his dirty fingerprints on everything.

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Old 05-12-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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All this is - except Matt - judging animals by humane standards. It is totally inapplicable.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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How do you define noble OP?

Animals behave in a genuine, honest, or virtuous manner...they have one primary motivation. Do what it takes to survive and carry on their genes. They don't get sidetracked by other less important things. Staying true to their purpose may be noble...even if it requires deception.


one thing that has always stuck with me, is, how vile man can be...more so than animals....

also, a Bible verse, that says, and maybe not in these very words, "Watch and learn from the beasts of the field". Animals are amazing.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:34 PM
 
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one thing that has always stuck with me, is, how vile man can be...more so than animals....

also, a Bible verse, that says, and maybe not in these very words, "Watch and learn from the beasts of the field". Animals are amazing.
They do tend to know what side of their bread the butter's on. They face it head on and don't sit around whining about it...coulda-shoulda-woulda, regretting the past, pining over the future, piling up resentment over what they feel they deserve. All things most humans waste a lot of energy on.
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Old 05-12-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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All animals follow the food chain except for humans. We are like viruses, we have no natural enemies.
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