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Old 11-23-2020, 02:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The bridge of dreams across this impermanent world inevitably ends. From the highest mountaintop clouds drift into the deep blue sky and disappear.
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Old 11-24-2020, 08:59 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Death is not the same for everyone, any more than everyone is the same. None of us can say how another person, at any stage of life or set of life circumstances, will experience death.
Death is the same for everyone i.e. the cessation of biological functions (despite differences in interpretation and circumstances).
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Old 11-28-2020, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Perhaps how much of a tragedy a death is depends on how many people are adversely affected by it regardless of the circumstances of their life.
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Old 11-29-2020, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Perhaps how much of a tragedy a death is depends on how many people are adversely affected by it regardless of the circumstances of their life.
Well said.
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:18 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Perhaps how much of a tragedy a death is depends on how many people are adversely affected by it regardless of the circumstances of their life.
True, which is why 'tragedy' is often defined as an event which causes great suffering/many deaths i.e. mass shootings, bombs, airplane accidents and so on - as opposed to the death of one person (per the OP). One death is more likely to be viewed by way of sadness, shock, grief or even as 'unfair' (as opposed to a 'tragedy').
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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In my own point of view of this question, both are adjusted to the lives that they have. It's an almost instinctive drive to preserve one's live as long as possible. (at least for those who are mentally & emotionally healthy)

Person B may not know of any other kind of life beyond his own. Person A may be quite aware of others plights. So each will assign a different value to "death". (germane to the times, circumstances, and even culture of their lives now at 30)

In their final moments "life" is truly the one sole thing of value each will have to hold on to. Person A will have more trappings to leave behind than person B, but in those last few breaths they will leave the same way they came.

As I see it (my opinion) we are each given this "virtual life" we call a soul. It resides in the human body it is born into which is our vehicle. This is given a grant of time and none of us know how long that will be. Our bodily vehicle is placed into this place we call "earth" with many others to serve as a learning laboratory. Each of us may have different levels of autonomy & mobility. Some will live wealthy and want for nothing such as person A or be poor as person B or live in any variation in between.

We must all realize we are only here for a visit. Death will ultimately come to all of us. If we can learn and develop better understandings of our circumstances and pass this knowledge along it may help make a better world (earth).

Now, if our soul is an energy force, some believe energy is neither created nor destroyed. Should that be the case this energy may find itself into another newborn body. Thus the argument some advance for reincarnation. But not all of us believe in that, or at least it happening in exactly that manner.

Most of us here on this forum haven't lived the life of person B. So we feel pity or possibly empathy for him. Yet if you were to remove person A from the opulence & physical wealth of his circumstances, he may bear a surprising similarity to person B.(struggling to maintain life on a daily basis) Each will have his own interpretation of what his life has accounted for at the end of his time. If they have learned and passed along that learning & knowledge to improve this world that they came into in a constructive manner, both should be able to leave this world with their head held high.
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Old 12-01-2020, 10:43 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Some of the happiest folks I have ever known were dirt poor living in countries with little public services.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Fear of death is caused by internal subconscious knowing that individual is not ready for it. A person, that is at internal peace, has no fear of death without even thinking of it.


The ONLY thing that belongs to individual is his mind. Nothing else. Everyhting else is borrowed from nature or, instilled by society as false sense of possession of something. Naked you come into this world, naked you leave it and, even that naked body is not yours, it's a loaner from the nature.


As it is said in the great book, The Master and Margarita, "what death can be better than one, when you are enjoying the company of your best friends, with a chalice of good wine in your hand, that you sipped from, with painless poison in it. " That's how Roman noble men died. With feast and joy.
Vedanta will argue even the mind is not you. It is ignorance that masks your true self, which is eternal. If you know you are eternal, then you conquer death. It is of no consequence.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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Some of the happiest folks I have ever known were dirt poor living in countries with little public services.
They are not happy because of their poverty and lack of latrines. Happiness is our natural state of being.
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Old 12-05-2020, 12:19 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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They are not happy because of their poverty and lack of latrines. Happiness is our natural state of being.
Happiness isn't our 'natural state of being' anymore than being poor or wealthy is.
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