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Old 08-09-2010, 08:46 PM
 
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Hello, I am debating between Florida and Arizona and it's driving me nuts!

I want to live in a warm, hot climate as I do not mind the HOT weather at all...in fact, I love it.

I like to bike ride on the trails here in Noblesville, IN on my road bike and was wondering if there were any paved bike trails in the neighborhoods around the phoenix area.

The neighborhoods in Arizona look amazing and that is one of big attractions of Arizona when I look at it. Some homes I notice have no grass while others do...why is that by the way?

Thanks again for your help and I'll probably have a lot more questions.

Ryan
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Grass is a huge pain to maintain here, and also can be quite costly in terms of water usage. I have a friend who claims he pays $600/month just to water his lawn. He has a rather large property.

The heat here is different than Florida. Mostly less humid which is nice.
I don't know how important job prospects are for you but the job market here is not a pretty situation for most people.

There are lots of hiking and biking trails around the area (mountain bikes would serve you better than road bikes) but you had better like the desert scenery because it is much different than Indiana.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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It is not "just a desert" but it is the Sonoran Desert. Our desert is much more beautiful, more natural foliage, with plant species not found anywhere else. The Sonoran Desert is much more beautiful than other places like Nevada, or Southern California.

It is somewhat unfortunate that so many people come here an plowed under the natural habitat and planted grass and non-native plants.

One visit to natural parks like Saguaro National Park, Estrella Mountain Park, McDowell Mountain Park, Boyce Thompson Arboretum State Park and you will see that this is not "just a desert".
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:25 PM
 
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There are lots of paved bike paths. Check out the link below for Arizona Bicycle and
Pedestrian Maps. I like the MAG one for Phoenix.

ADOT Multimodal Planning Division

There are many different kinds of deserts, four in the U.S. alone, so saying Phoenix is just a desert really doesn't say much other than it's annual rainfall is below some number.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:50 PM
 
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It is not "just a desert" but it is the Sonoran Desert. Our desert is much more beautiful, more natural foliage, with plant species not found anywhere else. The Sonoran Desert is much more beautiful than other places like Nevada, or Southern California.
Yup! I've had so many people come visit that expect it to be like the Sahara with just sand and dirt, but it's about as lush a desert as one can find especially on the slopes of mountains.

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Old 08-09-2010, 10:39 PM
 
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Great stuff everyone, thanks for the replies! I did some more research on AZ tonight and I'm starting to like it more and more but still I have a lot more stuff to consider and look at.

And that pic really shows the beauty of AZ...yeah, I honestly didn't expect so much vegetation in the desert.

By the way, how expensive is the scottsdale area outside of phoenix?
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:43 PM
 
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Everything is relative and compared with all other parts of the Phoenix area Scottsdale is considered expensive. However when you compare it with other parts of the country, like say Washington DC, SF, or NYC it is still rather cheap.
Check out craigslist to see how much rents are.
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Great stuff everyone, thanks for the replies! I did some more research on AZ tonight and I'm starting to like it more and more but still I have a lot more stuff to consider and look at.

And that pic really shows the beauty of AZ...yeah, I honestly didn't expect so much vegetation in the desert.
One of my favorite places to hike here is Spur Cross Ranch Conservation Area. Its on the far north end of Cave Creek and mostly untouched by development.

Because its so far north in the valley, it is typically 5 to 10 degrees cooler than the official temperature at the airport.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Yup! I've had so many people come visit that expect it to be like the Sahara with just sand and dirt, but it's about as lush a desert as one can find especially on the slopes of mountains.
Slackjaw, nice picture but it is missing one important thing. The Saquaro, found only in the Sonoran Desert.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn230/AZJoeD/SaguaroLake.jpg (broken link)
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Hey if you move here and your front yard is grass I would totally invest in landscaping and convert it to a desert type yard. 1st of all you don't have to water most of the plants, and if you do you can have a dripper on the few limited plants. You won't have to own a lawn mower and as long as you spray for weeds the yard will require little to no maintainance. If you get a palm tree, thats cool but don't be like my gheto neighbors who let it get infested with scorpioin and the palms get old dry and nasty and blow in my yard after the storm. My dad makes me get up and go pick them up its so bullcrap.
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