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Old 07-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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If the current economic recession turns into a depression and you have austerity, civil unrest, resentment towards the wealthy, a two-tiered society with a very small middle class and a huge underclass , tent cities, etc, how will metro Phoenix fare in this scenario? Will most areas inside the beltway (Loop 101) be a danger zone in a SHTF scenario and how will wealthy enclaves inside the beltway like Paradise Valley and the Biltmore area protect themselves if the surrounding areas become like present day Newark or Detroit? Will North Scottsdale and Gilbert be insulated? I think people should think about these factors when buying a house in a largely populated metro area in these present economic times. You could apply the above to Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Dallas or any large sprawl metro area.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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You need to sip on some chamomile tea and calm yourself down.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Anchored in Phoenix
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Personally, I work outside of Phoenix in another large metro area, but have an apartment in Phoenix. I would much rather be in a city than in the country. I'm a bad shot with a gun so I cannot defend myself. And also in the country, expect no help if you get in an accident and bleed profusely. Ambulances have to come from somewhere. Expect the sheriff deputies to be busy elsewhere when roving gangs invade your "fortress." In the city you can be lost in the shuffle. I would not own any fancy car or live in a fancy house or wear expensive clothes/watches. True, there are far more civilians than cops/national guard. But I stand more of a chance with my bad aim in the city, and getting into some accident where I'm bleeding than I would in the country.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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You need to sip on some chamomile tea and calm yourself down.
And add a shot of whiskey.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ > Raleigh, NC
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And add a shot of whiskey.
Lets not use the word "shot" around this guy. Might give him ideas.

MODS: maybe this thread belongs in a different forum?
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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Lets not use the word "shot" around this guy. Might give him ideas.

MODS: maybe this thread belongs in a different forum?
I am not a wacko but an economic realist and there are economists who believe a depression/economic collapse is coming to the United States with massive unemployment, hyperinflation in food and energy, tent cities, further decline in home values etc. I just think it's wise to be prepared for a SHTF scenario. Lots of areas inside the Loop 101 beltway have seen huge increases in poverty, linear slums, crime, and general decline in the last 20 years. So just magnify that in an economic collapse situation. Couple that with high fuel prices which has depressed valued in the exurbs and you have to wonder what are some good areas, which will hold up in a SHTF scenario?
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:31 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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My biggest concern is the bug out plan.

I- 10 & I-17.

That's pretty much it.

Leave early.

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Old 07-22-2011, 05:34 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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You need to sip on some chamomile tea and calm yourself down.
A very real, possible scenario, Lady.

something to consider.....like a tornado in the midwest, hurricane in Florida, or an earthquake in CA.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Im worried.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I hope this isn't going to be as bad as Y2K.
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