04-07-2015, 09:12 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: winters. Flagstaff is childs-play (higher elevation, more sun, not bitter cold, and shorter season). Now give northern MN a try though the dead of winter. It starts up late November and hangs on well into March. There is 60% cloud cover, occasional bitter winds, 120" of snow to shovel and drive though, times when the high is minus 5 degrees etc. Apples-oranges.
He said Flagstaff was 12 degrees, which is below MN's average winter temps. Cold is cold, no matter how you look at it. High desert areas (ie Four Corners) get just as bitterly cold as anything Ive experienced in MN, made even worse by the high winds that always seem prevalent up there.
04-07-2015, 05:40 PM
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He said Flagstaff was 12 degrees, which is below MN's average winter temps. Cold is cold, no matter how you look at it. High desert areas (ie Four Corners) get just as bitterly cold as anything Ive experienced in MN, made even worse by the high winds that always seem prevalent up there.
Hot is not hot and cold is not cold (sun versus shade versus humidity versus a breeze all matter). As you pointed out, wind makes it worse (a.k.a. wind chill). The sun on your skin makes a bitter cold much more palletable too. That's why I mentioned the 60% cloud cover.
Go back and compare Brained MN versus Flagstaff and report back the amount of sunny days as well as the average highs and lows. There is no comparison.
04-07-2015, 07:26 PM
Location: Coolidge, AZ
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Hot is not hot and cold is not cold (sun versus shade versus humidity versus a breeze all matter). As you pointed out, wind makes it worse (a.k.a. wind chill). The sun on your skin makes a bitter cold much more palletable too. That's why I mentioned the 60% cloud cover.
I'll give you all your points MN-Born and raised but, I highly doubt I'd take an 80 degree AZ winter over a real winter. I absolutely love the cold. Its like a few months of summer and the rest of the year is unbearable hell here to me. The COL and proximity to my hometown in SoCal makes it work for me. As soon as I find a high paying job in my field in Flag (Likely never), I'm gone from the valley
. Than again I'm weird and run very hot. San Diego was too hot too LOL. I bet I'd love Minnesota.
04-08-2015, 09:22 AM
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I'll give you all your points MN-Born and raised but, I highly doubt I'd take an 80 degree AZ winter over a real winter. I absolutely love the cold. Its like a few months of summer and the rest of the year is unbearable hell here to me. The COL and proximity to my hometown in SoCal makes it work for me. As soon as I find a high paying job in my field in Flag (Likely never), I'm gone from the valley
. Than again I'm weird and run very hot. San Diego was too hot too LOL. I bet I'd love Minnesota.
There are those who LOVE the hot and others that LOVE the cold. It seems you are a fantastic fit in MN so long as you don't mind cloudy days, rain, and bugs, bugs, and more bugs. After all, bugs LOVE the rain.
But you are not alone. I know many people from northern states that would never contemplate moving to out of state because they enjoy the winter. Heck, some people love the clouds too.
04-08-2015, 09:44 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Hot is not hot and cold is not cold (sun versus shade versus humidity versus a breeze all matter). As you pointed out, wind makes it worse (a.k.a. wind chill). The sun on your skin makes a bitter cold much more palletable too. That's why I mentioned the 60% cloud cover.
MN is sunnier than you'd think. Not as sunny as Flagstaff, of course, but not too far off either. In fact, the clear skies is part of the reason MN is so doggone cold in winter.
04-08-2015, 01:35 PM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I went past the RV park this morning and it is clearing out pretty well. Oh happy day!
04-08-2015, 01:46 PM
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MN is sunnier than you'd think. Not as sunny as Flagstaff, of course, but not too far off either. In fact, the clear skies is part of the reason MN is so doggone cold in winter.
Minneapolis averages 95 sunny days a year, 101 partly sunny days, and 96 total sunny days a year.
Flagstaff's numbers for the same? 162, 102, 264.
That's quite a difference if you ask me
Annual Days of Sunshine in Minnesota - Current Results
Annual Days of Sunshine in Arizona - Current Results
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04-08-2015, 04:54 PM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Right. I
said MPLS sunshine percentage
wasnt as high as Flag's, just not as far behind as you might think. With the exception of Nov/Dec, MPLS only averages 10-15% less sunshine year round. MPLS is one of the sunniest large cities in the nation, believe it or not. It gets just as much sun as "sunny" cities like Jacksonville, Grand Junction, Pensacola, Savannah, Atlanta, Boise, Shreveport, Charlotte, Austin, etc.
04-08-2015, 05:17 PM
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Right. I said MPLS sunshine percentage wasnt as high as Flag's, just not as far behind as you might think. With the exception of Nov/Dec, MPLS only averages 10-15% less sunshine year round. MPLS is one of the sunniest large cities in the nation, believe it or not. It gets just as much sun as "sunny" cities like Jacksonville, Grand Junction, Pensacola, Savannah, Atlanta, Boise, Shreveport, Charlotte, Austin, etc.
I'm from Des Moines, which numbers for sunny/partly days are almost the same as Minneapolis (MPLS 105/97/202, DM 95/101/196). It is sunnier there than a lot of cities in the north, especially during the winter, but still a far cry from cities in AZ. It is what it is.
I chose Phoenix because of the sunny weather! It is a
big difference from the Midwest.
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04-08-2015, 07:48 PM
Location: Coolidge, AZ
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I'm from Des Moines, which numbers for sunny/partly days are almost the same as Minneapolis (MPLS 105/97/202, DM 95/101/196). It is sunnier there than a lot of cities in the north, especially during the winter, but still a far cry from cities in AZ. It is what it is. big
And by your posts it is absolutely an awesome place for you. I die just reading you type about your house being a comfy 80 degrees inside lol. I love my career here and the cost of living grants me awesome opportunities here. I am so envious that this is like the worst possible climate for me and ideal for others. Idk why I am miserably warm at 70 degrees but it pisses me off that I am
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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. Than again I'm weird and run very hot. San Diego was too hot too LOL. I bet I'd love Minnesota.
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