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Old 09-03-2007, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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Well I'm here to tell the truth...Phoenix is like California without the beaches and Vegas without the casinos...and well the weather is hotter no...deadlier, the dust storms the rude drives, the invasion of illegals....

Phoenix and the surrounding area is the spider at the center of a huge web sucking the life out of this state.

Please don't make the mistake of moving to this hell hole in the desert.

We have nothing but chain restaurants, chain shopping malls and no real entertainment. Sure you can tube down the salt river but ask yourself why in 4 hours of drinking and floating in tubes does no one leave to go to the bathroom...I personally don't want to float in a toilet.

Phoenix has some of the rudest and most uneducated drivers in the country. I have a CDL so I know what good driving is...you will learn NOT to use your turn signal as it merely causes the driver in the other lane to speed up not to let you in. If you have driven on the freeways you will have one time or another followed someone going 45 in the left fast lane...whom will not move but rather slam on their brakes to "tech you a lesson". The illegals and most Mexican drivers while they cant read the English signs and learned to drive in Mexico where anything goes will also be driving waaay to slow...they have to as one accident or ticket will cause them to be shipped back to their cess pit of a country.

The heat...sure November threw April is fairly nice... but why would you want to live in a state where the summer where your supposed to be enjoying the outdoors is spent rushing from your air conditiond car to the air conditioned mall.... why not move to Cali where its nice all year round...are you a glutton for punishment?

The Monsoon season is technically NOT a monsoon...ask any weather professional...our dust storms don't meet the requirement of a monsoon. Its nice to know you can never keep your car clean out here as the evenings are filled watching a 30 mile wide by mile high dust cloud sweep across the city....yay.

Anything south of Thomas and west of Central avenue is basically Mexico...go ahead take a drive down Washington west of Central...you'll swear you missed the border crossing gate.

Scottsdale (Snottsdale)...lol...absolutely chock full of fakes,losers, liars, cheaters and well $30,000 a year millionaires. They bought homes during the housing boom using crazy nothing down interest only loans too stupid to realize in 3 years their payments would fully adjust which is why you now see more homes for sale and in foreclosure in this city than any other city in the Phoenix metro area. Their leased wanna be Hummer H2's and BMW 3 series are all getting repoed....which is also why you see so many stores closing in this part of town.

Sports...well the Cardinals are arguably the worst team in sports...and who wants to watch a game where your sweating so bad you slide off the bench seats...lol

Things I enjoy about Phoenix? let me really try to think... AJ's fine foods...now theres a great store...best idea in grocery stores ever. Ummm what else...hmmmmm.....I cant take my dog to the dog park even though its September and 110 out...Gilbert has the best dog park in the country the Cosmo Dog Park...but nope...my dog will die of heat exhaustion....ummmm let me think.... OH!!! Beautiful Sunsets...but then again so does every other state in the Union... Ok ummm the desert...LOL folks actually think its beautiful not to see any forests or trees that don't have spines...every thing out here has pricks on it...well that kind of sums up most folks attitudes here in the sweat pit from hell.

You've been warned.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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bye!!!!!!!
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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bye!!!!!!!

And of course nothing salient to add in support of Phoenix...

I dare you to list 5 good things about Phoenix that cant be had in other cities or cant be easily refuted. (PS 115 degree heat is not "good"..you can die from it)
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And of course nothing salient to add in support of Phoenix...

I dare you to list 5 good things about Phoenix that cant be had in other cities or cant be easily refuted. (PS 115 degree heat is not "good"..you can die from it)
Factoring in the relatively low cost of housing:

No winters

Reasonable wages

Low humidity--------back east in the summer is rougher than here-----I know from personal experience.

Decent roads/highways

People by and large who are good.

Next question?
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:23 PM
 
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- Factoring in the relatively low cost of housing:

Relative to what? Prices are now up there with Southern California if you don't want to live in a crime infested area of Phoenix.

- No winters

Along with the entire West Coast, Southwest, Texas, and South. Big Deal.

- Reasonable wages

Me thinks not. The Phoenix area suffers from well below average wages and an uneducated populace that big employers do not seek out.

- Low humidity--------back east in the summer is rougher than here-----I know from personal experience.

I call b.s. on that one. The monsoon season is horrible. Back east when it's 90 degrees and 80% humidity it's better than Phoenix at 110 degrees and 60% humidity. The monsoon season is horribly humid and terrible.

- Decent roads/highways

Traffic is a nightmare. People can't drive. The roads are full of uninsured trash and illegals.

- People by and large who are good.

Maybe good but not very friendly and sociable. And I've found a lot of dishonest businesses in Arizona, more so than in other states.

- Next question?

Yes, have you had a lobotomy to believe all that, or just drunk way too much of the "Kool Aid?" (Or are you a realtor promoting the area?)
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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Originally Posted by Mathiasthegreat View Post
And of course nothing salient to add in support of Phoenix...

I dare you to list 5 good things about Phoenix that cant be had in other cities or cant be easily refuted. (PS 115 degree heat is not "good"..you can die from it)
Less people with attitudes like yours.
Heat not a problem as other cities with 90-100% humidiyt. More people die of heat related weather in Chicago, NYC and all the way down to FL.
Perfect Winter weather.
Low taxes.
Good jobs.
Many lakes in the area.
Lower cost of living.
Better streets than most cities.
Great lifestyle.
No earthquakes, fires, hurricanes, tornados.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
Factoring in the relatively low cost of housing:

No winters

Reasonable wages

Low humidity--------back east in the summer is rougher than here-----I know from personal experience.

Decent roads/highways

People by and large who are good.

Next question?
No winters?

Pic taken outside of my home Scottsdale road and Carefree WINTER of 06.



Reasonable Wages...NO..wrong again

"The average weekly wage levels in the two large Arizona counties were below the national average of $812. Maricopa County recorded the highest average weekly wage in Arizona at $801 in the fourth quarter 2004, ranking it 120th among the 317 large counties nationwide. Pima County reported an average weekly wage of $701, ranking it 228th."

Pulled from the US department of labor website: AVERAGE WEEKLY WAGES IN ARIZONA: FOURTH QUARTER 2004


Humidity....thats a draw... I lived in Florida and its was much nicer in the summer than here in AZ..so as you say I know as well.


Arizona roads...oh yeas..smooth dark black crackless beauts... NOT

http://www.criticalexponent.org/images/2006.03%20California%20to%20%20Arizona%20Bike%20Tr ip/20060323.1116-imgp4122:.jpg (broken link)


People by and large who are good...LOL WRONG WRONG WRONG

Arizona was ranked 4th most dangerous state in 2006.

Link to evidence:Most Dangerous/Safest State Award 2006


So 1 draw out of 5 possible answers....sorry but your wrong all the way around.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Lobotomy? Many of your 'facts' are questionable at best.

You must be referring to the 60 degree dewpoint in the summers.......whereas 60 % humidity @ 110F would equal a 170F heat index.

And too where in the Los Angeles basin can one buy a decent home for $250K? There are pretty older enclaves in S Scottsdale where that same dollar amount would get you a home.

I stand by what I stated.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Less people with attitudes like yours.
Heat not a problem as other cities with 90-100% humidiyt. More people die of heat related weather in Chicago, NYC and all the way down to FL.
Perfect Winter weather.
Low taxes.
Good jobs.
Many lakes in the area.
Lower cost of living.
Better streets than most cities.
Great lifestyle.
No earthquakes, fires, hurricanes, tornados.
Well stated.

If people detest Az so much; they can leave.

As I have stated in the past: I hated the Wash DC area (native from there, unfortunately) so I left-------never to return even for a visit.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:43 PM
 
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And too where in the Los Angeles basin can one buy a decent home for $250K? There are pretty older enclaves in S Scottsdale where that same dollar amount would get you a home.

I stand by what I stated.
Gee thanks for twisting my facts. I didn't say LA basin, I said Southern California. There are affordable areas of Orange and San Diego counties where one can buy a nice home for prices comparable to a safe area of Arizona. Or you can go further inland where it's much cheaper, and you might as well because AZ is the desert anyway, if you want to compare apples to apples.

S. Scottsdale? Sorry but that's not what I consider a safe area. Don't believe me? Look up the crime stats yourself. Go ahead, do it. And Channel 3 named S. Scottsdale the #1 "rape zone" in the state of Arizona. I had several friends who lived down there and moved out after their cars were broken into, homes burglarized, one girl had her car vandalized, etc etc etc etc etc. Driving around there you either see the club people with their hookers and drug dealers or you see illegals.

You can keep S. Scottsdale, it isn't even worth the $250k price you named.
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