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Old 01-09-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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I would not do ANYTHING until you actually see the water and power bills. I don't know what city you are in, if you are not in Phoenix that high quarterly sewer charge may not happen. I would, perhaps, have a discussion with the landlord about this not being discussed with you beforehand, depending on what your lease says about his access to the property. Normally, there are limits on access without notice. This is NOT something that needs to involve "filing it [with] the state" ???? or involving the police if it happens again.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Observer is right. The right of quiet enjoyment is a covenant that occurs in any lease, whether its spelled out or not, but if the landlord violates it your remedies are limited to things like withholding rent or terminating the lease and you'd need to consult with an attorney to enforce them, not the police. Calling the police would only be appropriate if he was causing a disturbance, threatening you, etc.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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Just have a friendly discussion with your landlord. Much will depend on who is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the pool, as stated in the rental agreement.

The landlord should not come on the property without proper notice, except in an emergency situation. That was a mistake, and you can ask him to remember to give you notice the next time.

However, there may be a very good reason why the water needed to be changed, and the landlord is probably showing responsibility by doing it. I doubt if he just arbitrarily decided to change water for no reason.

So rather than have this thing blown completely out of proportion on an internet forum, talk to your landlord to find out what's happening, and why, and then come to an understanding with him.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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Just have a friendly discussion with your landlord. Much will depend on who is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the pool, as stated in the rental agreement.

The landlord should not come on the property without proper notice, except in an emergency situation. That was a mistake, and you can ask him to remember to give you notice the next time.

However, there may be a very good reason why the water needed to be changed, and the landlord is probably showing responsibility by doing it. I doubt if he just arbitrarily decided to change water for no reason.

So rather than have this thing blown completely out of proportion on an internet forum, talk to your landlord to find out what's happening, and why, and then come to an understanding with him.
It wasn't just " changing the water", it was cosmetic work to the pool that required draining. Either way, no emergency. Agree with your advice.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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I don't understand the answers above that indicate it may be your responsibility. The maintenance costs associated with a rental are never the responsibility of the tenant. I would speak to him immediately and inform him that he needs to agree to pay for the water and electricity use before he can use YOUR water.

If you allow him to use YOUR water then the water company will hold you accountable, however, the costs of renovating the pool isn't your responsibility under any circumstance.

This is renovations not maintenance so who is responsible for normal pool maintenance (cleaning, adding chemicals, etc) is irrelevant.

It cost me $100 to refill my pool after some recent work. As has been mentioned, refilling your pool this time of year could have a year long impact on your sewer rates depending on your municipality.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:55 PM
 
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Just mention it to your landlord. If your're a good tenant, I wouldnt lose you for $100. It would cost more than that to flip the property plus the inconvienence of showing it, listiting it, etc etc. He might just say he'll split it or whatever.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:46 AM
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I have a very good relationship with my landlord and don't want to blow it over something relatively minor. It is the landlord's responsibility to provide pool maintenance and the work started on the day that I normally have my weekly pool service. That may be why he didn't think to give me a heads up. I checked on APS's site and the electricity usage was negligible. I am still concerned with the water bill but it probably won't be too bad. I'll have to check into the ongoing sewer usage implication that many have mentioned. I'm in Scottsdale so I wonder if that's only a Phoenix proper issue. Thanks again for the advice.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:56 AM
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I have a very good relationship with my landlord and don't want to blow it over something relatively minor. It is the landlord's responsibility to provide pool maintenance and the work started on the day that I normally have my weekly pool service. That may be why he didn't think to give me a heads up. I checked on APS's site and the electricity usage was negligible. I am still concerned with the water bill but it probably won't be too bad. I'll have to check into the ongoing sewer usage implication that many have mentioned. I'm in Scottsdale so I wonder if that's only a Phoenix proper issue. Thanks again for the advice.

Call the city water department and ask about the sewer bill question, they can tell you what their policy is. Good luck!
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