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Old 12-07-2007, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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Why do people move to AZ and then try to change it to be like where they came from?

We go to Papago all the time and like it the way it is. If it's got too much civilization for your tastes then head another direction.
I fail to see how a proposal to bury power lines is an effort to make Papago Park look like somewhere else. Such a project, if feasible, would just make Papago Park a better version of itself. I don't think anyone's talking about putting in huge lawns, non-native trees, or anything that might change its essential character.
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:35 PM
 
Location: phoenix, az
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to each his/her own, but i don't think it's anything. no comparison to lincoln or central park.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:22 PM
 
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Would you have felt the same way about loud country music, loud classic rock, etc. ? Whenever I hear this complaint, I always wonder why the ethnicity of the music is important enough to mention.

IF, I would of ever heard loud country or rock there, I would of mentioned it. But all I hear there is mexican music everytime I pedal by. No different then Encanto Park...
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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No different then Encanto Park...
Then, you have never been to Papago Park -

For, if you had, you would have heard great Jazz. R+B. Rock. New Age as well

Encanto and Papago Park cannot be compared - not even remotely.

Like I said - you have never been there
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:29 PM
 
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They also had reserved right of ways

AND, they did not have Indian Burial Sites to contend with either
Where are the burial sites? Below the giant steel columns and cement anchors already in the ground below the lines?

And what right of ways are you talking about? SRP is happy to bury their own powerlines if someone else pays for it. Since most of the park is undeveloped, I can't imagine there's much, if any other utilities to contend with. Just curious.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:43 PM
 
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Why do people move to AZ and then try to change it to be like where they came from?

We go to Papago all the time and like it the way it is. If it's got too much civilization for your tastes then head another direction.
Those powerlines are 10-12 stories tall with dozens of cables running right above the scenic red rocks. I'm simply suggesting the scenery be changed back to what it looked like before someone moved here and decided to change it to look ugly by blighting the park's views.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Those powerlines are 10-12 stories tall with dozens of cables running right above the scenic red rocks. I'm simply suggesting the scenery be changed back to what it looked like before someone moved here and decided to change it to look ugly by blighting the park's views.
With all due respect - do you have any idea how long those lines have been there?

I would venture a guess that they were there before you were born!

They were there before Papago Park?

BTW, do you know what, historically, Papago Park is famous for???
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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BTW, do you know what, historically, Papago Park is famous for???
Is this quiz for everyone? If so, my answer, in the form of a question, is the following:

Which Phoenix park housed a prison camp for German prisoners of war during WWII?


Have I scored in Phoenix City-Data Forum Jeopardy?

By the way, I still think joninaz's idea is a well-intentioned and reasonable one worthy of discussion. It may not be feasible; I don't have enough expertise to say, but it can be the basis of a good, constructive conversation about the park and its future.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Viewed from the right vantage point, at the right angle, Papago Park can be beautiful. Here's a picture I shot last Saturday:

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:34 PM
 
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The powelines, I believe, were put up in the 70s.

I didn't say they were there before the park. AzDreamer thought it's best to leave the park as it and not to change things. My comment was the park was there before the powerlines, so by his/her reasoning, it's the power company that that changed the park. I'm interested in scenic restoration.

Historically, it seems to be know for a lot of things. What's your view?
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