Will Scottsdale Ever Get Onboard With Light Rail? (Phoenix, Tempe: real estate, transfer)

[Pink Jazz]

Originally Posted by cjseliga

I feel the primary identification for each line is probably going to be letters (A, B, C, D, etc.) with colors only being a secondary identifier. I will be the first to eat crow if I'm wrong and they just go with colors as the primary identifier.

I highly doubt it, since that usually seems to be a last resort option when there are too many lines to represent with colors. In most of the United States and the world, colors are the rule, not the exception. Even the extensive Chicago "L" uses colors, with the Pink Line being their newest.

In fact, colors were in fact used for certain limited stop bus routes before the light rail entered service, with the Red Line roughly serving the current light rail corridor. This seems to hint that the existing light rail could in fact be called the Red Line once more lines are built.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by observer53

If you are in that big a hurry, and want to spend more money, be my guest. That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people in the proposed area who would use it. I like my $2.00 round trip.

Not in a hurry, just don't like wasting time. Uber's cheap too.

[cjseliga]

Originally Posted by Pink Jazz

I highly doubt it, since that usually seems to be a last resort option when there are too many lines to represent with colors. In most of the United States and the world, colors are the rule, not the exception. Even the extensive Chicago "L" uses colors, with the Pink Line being their newest.

In fact, colors were in fact used for certain limited stop bus routes before the light rail entered service, with the Red Line roughly serving the current light rail corridor. This seems to hint that the existing light rail could in fact be called the Red Line once more lines are built.

Time will tell, I guess we'll find out in 2023 with the first "spur" opening. They can also use numbers like the Paris Metro, with a color as a secondary ID, or use names (least likely option), like the London Underground, with a color as a secondary ID. I'm not saying Valley Metro won't use colors at all, it will just be be tied to a letter/number/name, and the first three colors used will probably be blue, red and green.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

I don't take it to go to work but I have taken it from Tempe to go downtown for a game a few times. Each time I'm on it, I'm cursing myself for not taking an alternative means because it's so painfully slow.

If you ever ride it during rush hour as I often do it takes actually less time and less headache. I usually get my phone out and start working (making money) instead of paying for gas and wasting time stalling on the 202/10 interchange. Time is money afterall.

[Pink Jazz]

Originally Posted by cjseliga

Time will tell, I guess we'll find out in 2023 with the first "spur" opening. They can also use numbers like the Paris Metro, with a color as a secondary ID, or use names (least likely option), like the London Underground, with a color as a secondary ID. I'm not saying Valley Metro won't use colors at all, it will just be be tied to a letter/number/name, and the first three colors used will probably be blue, red and green.

Numbers are unlikely since numbers are used for bus routes. As for names, that would be difficult to determine. However, here are some potential names that can symbolize colors:

• Red - Fire Line
• Blue - Water Line
• Green - Grass Line
• Orange - Carrot Line
• Silver - Steel Line
• Pink - Fairy Line OR Jazz Line
• Gold - Lightning Line
• Brown - Earth Line
• Purple - Grape Line

[Java Jolt]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

What do you guys think? I think this would be good if you could then run it down Camelback or Indian School or even Thomas to Central.

Is Scottsdale ready to reconsider light rail? New routes proposed

Scottsdale snubbed light rail before, what makes you think they won't snub it again?

What is showdown rd. 2?

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Java Jolt

Scottsdale snubbed light rail before, what makes you think they won't snub it again?

What is showdown rd. 2?

Read the article , I think you've answered your own question by using the word again.


We'll see how this goes now, these proposed routes are good especially if they connect to Phoenix and Tempe making a full urban square of light rail. Also, the Light Rail has shown development potential for Phoenix and Tempe, I'd love to see Phoenix, Tempe and Scottsdale connected via Light Rail, that has some really outstanding future potential for the direction of this metro.

[Java Jolt]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Read the article , I think you've answered your own question by using the word again.


We'll see how this goes now, these proposed routes are good especially if they connect to Phoenix and Tempe making a full urban square of light rail. Also, the Light Rail has shown development potential for Phoenix and Tempe, I'd love to see Phoenix, Tempe and Scottsdale connected via Light Rail, that has some really outstanding future potential for the direction of this metro.

I agree, Scottsdale only stands to benefit from light rail expansion but apparently many people there seem to think it doesn't fit their standards.

Maybe if the trains were designed in the form of a Lexus or Mercedes they might have a better chance of being accepted by the Scottsdale crowd.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Java Jolt

I agree, Scottsdale only stands to benefit from light rail expansion but apparently many people there seem to think it doesn't fit their standards.

Maybe if the trains were designed in the form of a Lexus or Mercedes they might have a better chance of being accepted by the Scottsdale crowd.

Yawn. We'd need Bentleys at a minimum.

[sargeant79]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Not in a hurry, just don't like wasting time. Uber's cheap too.

Relative to a traditional Taxi with Discount Cab or Yellow, yes...Uber is cheap. But there's a very large portion of the population where the $20-$40 roundtrip that an Uber costs makes a huge difference.

A lot of these people go out and would probably like to come spend their money in Scottsdale. Having a different, less expensive transportation option would make it easier for them to do so. Then there's commuters. If you can't or won't drive for whatever reason, public transportation might save you $100 a week or more over an Uber. Think the servers and bartenders at some of your favorite restaurants and bars...most of these people can't afford to Uber to and from work every day, at least not without taking a serious hit to their income.