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Old 03-22-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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I think it probably swung some people towards voting for Trump, the same way the '68 riots helped the Silent Majority swing towards Nixon.

Fine job there, Bernie supporters.
That's what I stated before. All the civil disobedience caused by the protesters has a way of swaying the support in the other direction. They hate Trump, but all their hatred & violence is steering support away from their cause & their candidate(s), and in favor of Trump. Not too swift on their part, huh?

Quite frankly, I don't like any of the candidates. I'll probably end up voting for the Libertarian (Johnson) because there's no candidate in either of the two parties whom I support regarding their stance on the issues AND their demeanors/personality/style. Libertarians aren't perfect, but at least they have the right idea (and mean what they say) about reducing the size of gov't.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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I cant stand Trump myself or Hillary/Sanders. Gary Johnson is looking like a great alternative in my opinion also.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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This is all for show. Hillary Clinton is going to win in a landslide in the general election. Nothing was ever going to stop that. Trump will easily win the nomination.

It all comes down to math. You cannot win by alienating minority voters particularly Hispanics. The last Republican to win President (Bush) had over 40% of the Hispanic vote. By comparison, Romney had 20% of the Hispanic vote. Trump will probably have even less. And Black voters are huge Hillary supporters. I wonder how many more Presidential losses it will take before the Republicans finally admit their approach has been wrong to alienate minorities.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Old 03-22-2016, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Buckeye
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I'm not so sure HRC can win an election. Setting aside the possibility of a federal indictment she has other troubles. There are many democrats who are having trouble supporting another 'old school' candidate. But, being the generous person I am I'm here to help.

1. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

2. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

3. I votedDemocrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

4. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

5. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

6. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

7. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

8. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need
to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

9. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

10. I voted Democrat because I think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

11. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised
"HOPE AND CHANGE".

12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

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Old 03-22-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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That's what I stated before. All the civil disobedience caused by the protesters has a way of swaying the support in the other direction. They hate Trump, but all their hatred & violence is steering support away from their cause & their candidate(s), and in favor of Trump. Not too swift on their part, huh?

Quite frankly, I don't like any of the candidates. I'll probably end up voting for the Libertarian (Johnson) because there's no candidate in either of the two parties whom I support regarding their stance on the issues AND their demeanors/personality/style. Libertarians aren't perfect, but at least they have the right idea (and mean what they say) about reducing the size of gov't.
I've been tempted, but never voted for a 3rd Party candidate in my life. I feel it would be throwing away my vote (just my opinion.)

If in doubt, I would either vote for the candidate I hate least, or pick the newspaper or media outlet with whom I most violently disagree, and vote against the candidate they recommend (Robert Heinlein's suggestion).
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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What's interesting to me is that the Democratic Party spokesmen insist that Hillary is a shoe-in to defeat Trump, that due to his many negatives, he will be the easiest of the 4 remaining Republican candidates to defeat.

If that is the case, why are Democrats protesting and infiltrating Trump's events? If, as Napoleon is alleged to have said, you should never interfere with your opponent when he is making an error, why not just let him hang himself? Why the urgent need to interfere with his rallies?

Unless...
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Old 03-22-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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I've been tempted, but never voted for a 3rd Party candidate in my life. I feel it would be throwing away my vote (just my opinion.)

If in doubt, I would either vote for the candidate I hate least, or pick the newspaper or media outlet with whom I most violently disagree, and vote against the candidate they recommend (Robert Heinlein's suggestion).
Because Arizona goes R nearly every election, voting R is affirming an inevitability and voting D is a pissing in the wind. Thank you Electoral College.

In a non swing state voting 3rd party actually makes a lot of sense. If they get 5% of the popular vote hey get new funding avenues in the next election. If they break 15% in 3 major polls they debate on stage with the Rs and Ds.

Although this election may end up an anomaly given the race so far, but I generally vote for the highest polling 3rd party for the reasons above. Sometimes that's Green Party, last time it was Gary Johnson.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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Because Arizona goes R nearly every election, voting R is affirming an inevitability and voting D is a pissing in the wind. Thank you Electoral College.

In a non swing state voting 3rd party actually makes a lot of sense. If they get 5% of the popular vote hey get new funding avenues in the next election. If they break 15% in 3 major polls they debate on stage with the Rs and Ds.

Although this election may end up an anomaly given the race so far, but I generally vote for the highest polling 3rd party for the reasons above. Sometimes that's Green Party, last time it was Gary Johnson.
I more or less agree. I voted for Nader in 2000. If Gore had a chance in Arizona I would have voted for him but he didn't.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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What if an ambiance was trying to get though with someone who had a stroke or heart attack and these idiots blocked the road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XstfPyvTQDo
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