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Old 04-20-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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It's all about checks and balances, most people including me don't want Phoenix to be like California in the sense of prices being out of reach for the average person.

On the other hand there seems to be a little too much of a staunch conservative and libertarian sentiment here that results in Arizona being near the bottom in school funding, making us the laughingstock of the nation in that regard.

The resistance to bigger government is understandable but the legislature often takes this resistance too far when they cut and slash basic funding for education and healthcare down to the bare bones.
Make no mistake our State government tries hard often to get bigger. Ducey has a court packing deal coming up packaged as a way to alleviate AZ Supreme Court case logs, a Constitutional amendment to permanently limit school funding packaged as "a step in the right direction," another Constitutional amendment to limit the effects of voter initiatives packaged as "giving the legislature the tools to do its job" etc.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Avondale and Tempe, Arizona
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Make no mistake our State government tries hard often to get bigger. Ducey has a court packing deal coming up packaged as a way to alleviate AZ Supreme Court case logs, a Constitutional amendment to permanently limit school funding packaged as "a step in the right direction," another Constitutional amendment to limit the effects of voter initiatives packaged as "giving the legislature the tools to do its job" etc.
I know, bigger in the sense of restricting personal liberties but smaller in the sense of cutting funding for education and healthcare.

I'm afraid it will continue to be this way unless more people wise up and vote these knuckleheads out of office.
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Old 04-24-2016, 06:41 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Make no mistake our State government tries hard often to get bigger. Ducey has a court packing deal coming up packaged as a way to alleviate AZ Supreme Court case logs, a Constitutional amendment to permanently limit school funding packaged as "a step in the right direction," another Constitutional amendment to limit the effects of voter initiatives packaged as "giving the legislature the tools to do its job" etc.
Make no mistake: Republicans are no longer the party of smaller government. They're no better than Democrats in this regard. The last point you mentioned about limiting the effects of voter initiatives really disturbs me. The final say should always rest with the voters, and never be overruled by an executive, legislative, or judicial body. If a state Constitutional amendment should happen to be forced through the Legislature & approved by the Governor, those responsible should expect their heads to roll!
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Avondale and Tempe, Arizona
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Make no mistake: Republicans are no longer the party of smaller government. They're no better than Democrats in this regard. The last point you mentioned about limiting the effects of voter initiatives really disturbs me. The final say should always rest with the voters, and never be overruled by an executive, legislative, or judicial body. If a state Constitutional amendment should happen to be forced through the Legislature & approved by the Governor, those responsible should expect their heads to roll!
I'm glad we can agree on something.

This is what happens when there is one-party rule, legislation is pushed through that represents party politics and special interests instead of the voters.
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