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Old 03-06-2008, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I just need to know 3 things...


1. How far into the urban areas do the coyotes and mountain lions go? Where is the closest they have the been sighted?


2. Would it be safe to let my cats go in and out of an enclosed back yard through a cat door 24/7?


3. How can you keep all the dangerous animals like that (except scorpions) out of a back yard? (height/type of wall)
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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Coyotes can be found anywhere in the Phoenix area. Most people don't realize that coyotes range through every city these days, even NYC.

Wily Coyote Caught in New York City After 2-Day Chase
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:26 AM
 
Location: 5 miles from the center of the universe-The Superstition Mountains
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I just need to know 3 things...


1. How far into the urban areas do the coyotes and mountain lions go? Where is the closest they have the been sighted?

Coyotes, as far as they want...like downtown Chicago and NYC. Mountain lions may wander into outlying areas, but usually only in very dry seasons when their prey becomes scarce. I had to put one down after it was hit by a car inside the AJ city limits in the mid 1990s.

2. Would it be safe to let my cats go in and out of an enclosed back yard through a cat door 24/7?

Maybe, but they won't stay in your yard. Also, the predators come from above too-think hawks and owls. Depending on where you live, they'll be more of a threat.

I used to see "Lost cat-reward" signs posted on telephone poles in the foothills of the Superstition Mountains. It made me wonder how people that stupid ever survived to reach adulthood. Their cats weren't lost. They were LUNCH!


3. How can you keep all the dangerous animals like that (except scorpions) out of a back yard? (height/type of wall)

In addition to your wall, put a roof over it and keep the doors closed.

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Old 03-06-2008, 09:33 AM
 
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Coyotes can be found anywhere in the Phoenix area. Most people don't realize that coyotes range through every city these days, even NYC.

Wily Coyote Caught in New York City After 2-Day Chase
Yep. There are even coyotes in Los Angeles in the urban areas.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:34 AM
 
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3. How can you keep all the dangerous animals like that (except scorpions) out of a back yard? (height/type of wall)

In addition to your wall, put a roof over it and keep the doors closed.
Even that doesn't work all the time!
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Yep. There are even coyotes in Los Angeles in the urban areas.
We had one stroll into a Subway restaurant in downtown Chicago a few summers ago. The coyote just strolled in through the open front door, trotted past startled lunchgoers, then proceeded to head into the back room where it curled up on top of the stock they had sitting back there. It put up a good fight when Animal Control game and got it, but isnt that bizarre?!?! Moral of the story? Coyotes go anywhere they dang well please, including backyards in Arizona.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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I just need to know 3 things...


1. How far into the urban areas do the coyotes and mountain lions go? Where is the closest they have the been sighted?

Coyotes, as far as they want...like downtown Chicago and NYC. Mountain lions may wander into outlying areas, but usually only in very dry seasons when their prey becomes scarce. I had to put one down after it was hit by a car inside the AJ city limits in the mid 1990s.

2. Would it be safe to let my cats go in and out of an enclosed back yard through a cat door 24/7?

Maybe, but they won't stay in your yard. Also, the predators come from above too-think hawks and owls. Depending on where you live, they'll be more of a threat.

I used to see "Lost cat-reward" signs posted on telephone poles in the foothills of the Superstition Mountains. It made me wonder how people that stupid ever survived to reach adulthood. Their cats weren't lost. They were LUNCH!


3. How can you keep all the dangerous animals like that (except scorpions) out of a back yard? (height/type of wall)

In addition to your wall, put a roof over it and keep the doors closed.
Very true post! I see hawks overhead every once in a while looking for lunch. Coyotes trot down my street once in a while as well. Nothing to be scared about really.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Calgary Canada
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You'd be a fool to let your cats out 24/7 anywhere.. It's so dangerous and not worth the risk.. especially when it gets REALLY hot out.

I could never let my cats out on their own. I can't believe people are still doing this.. My cats love it outside but I have them trained to go in my yard with me, and they don't go anywhere. They just wander around, get some fresh air and I can then herd them in like CATtle. lol
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: St Louis,MO
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Default Cats!

My neighbors let there cats roam...

I have dogs myself, the neighbors cats (2) always greet me coming home, leaving for work, etc.

They're nice cats, but they make themselves at home in my front yard...
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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They're nice cats, but they make themselves at home in my front yard...
Get some rattlesnakes out there, that should end your problem.
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