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View Poll Results: Is the Phoenix Area Urban, Suburban, Rural or something else?
Urban: Yes, Phoenix is a real deal CITY 19 25.68%
Suburban: No, Phoenix is a well planned city, but not quite a CITY as in URBAN 49 66.22%
Rural: No, Phoenix has a long way to go before it feels city 1 1.35%
Other: Please explain 5 6.76%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-13-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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You responders are weird...

What crawled up your butts?
I just simply wanted to know if anyone agree with my daughter's feeling that being from Phoenix makes her a city girl, because my view of Phoenix (in which I live) is very suburban...

As I read these responses, geez. Not sure how this offends you guys...
Wow...
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Old 06-13-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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You responders are weird...

What crawled up your butts?
I just simply wanted to know if anyone agree with my daughter's feeling that being from Phoenix makes her a city girl, because my view of Phoenix (in which I live) is very suburban...

As I read these responses, geez. Not sure how this offends you guys...
Wow...
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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Atlanta and Phoenix are both suburban. Atlanta has more skyscrapers which make people think Atlanta is more urban than Phoenix. Atlanta's density is 3360 people/square mile. Phoenix's density is 3025 people/square mile. Given that there are enormous swaths of vacant land on the north side of Phoenix, I would argue that the populated portion of Phoenix is actually comparable if not more dense than Atlanta. The urban density of the Phoenix area is actually greater than the urban density of metro Atlanta, so the OP's daughter might have a point. Phoenix's development is a lot more continguous than Atlanta's. There are heavily forested, undeveloped areas in the middle of Atlanta that make you feel like you're in a rural area. This really isn't the case in Phoenix, except for the northern reaches around the 303, New River Road and Sonoran Desert Drive.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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In ways she is right.
Phoenix is a larger city then Atlanta, it is the fifth largest in the country. Whereas Atlanta is ninth.
Correction: you're comparing the ranking of the city proper of Phoenix to the metro area ranking of Atlanta. In this case, Phoenix ranks 12th, well over a million fewer people living in the Valley than Metro Atlanta.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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Atlanta and Phoenix are both suburban. Atlanta has more skyscrapers which make people think Atlanta is more urban than Phoenix. Atlanta's density is 3360 people/square mile. Phoenix's density is 3025 people/square mile. Given that there are enormous swaths of vacant land on the north side of Phoenix, I would argue that the populated portion of Phoenix is actually comparable if not more dense than Atlanta. The urban density of the Phoenix area is actually greater than the urban density of metro Atlanta, so the OP's daughter might have a point. Phoenix's development is a lot more continguous than Atlanta's. There are heavily forested, undeveloped areas in the middle of Atlanta that make you feel like you're in a rural area. This really isn't the case in Phoenix, except for the northern reaches around the 303, New River Road and Sonoran Desert Drive.
Based on 2010 census data the Phoenix MSA is more than twice as dense as Atlanta 3156 versus 1707. I'm sure Phoenix has become more dense since this time based on the amount of infill happening here, not sure what is happening in Atlanta.

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Old 06-13-2017, 05:52 PM
 
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You responders are weird...

What crawled up your butts?
I just simply wanted to know if anyone agree with my daughter's feeling that being from Phoenix makes her a city girl, because my view of Phoenix (in which I live) is very suburban...

As I read these responses, geez. Not sure how this offends you guys...
Wow...
This comes up all the time and just gets a little old. The Phoenix MSA is a lot denser than the Atlanta MSA, meaning the average person here lives in a denser area than Atlanta. It doesn't mean that our densest area has a higher PPSM ranking than Atlanta. I would also say it's subjective to where you live, does your daughter live in a highrise in downtown Phoenix or in Carefree? That'd be a big difference.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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Correction: you're comparing the ranking of the city proper of Phoenix to the metro area ranking of Atlanta. In this case, Phoenix ranks 12th, well over a million fewer people living in the Valley than Metro Atlanta.
And another correct statement is that the Atlanta urban area encompasses over 100% more square miles than Phoenix despite only having 22% more population. That is quite a bit more spread out than Phoenix.
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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True urban experience?

People would urinate frequently on the door/steps of my row house in Philly....... I've had zero for peeing incidents in Phoenix

Not everyone values the same things you do. To me living in NYC holds zero appeal. It is overpriced, crowded, difficult to move around in and a whole bunch of other items that don't fit with what I'm looking for...... I don't even really like to visit

I also understand there are options opportunities and items within the city that people value more than I do and it can be a good home for them

To each their own

Stop being so insecure and trying to drag other places down to pump up your own self worth, frankly no one really cares

NYC is appealing cause of the jobs, opportunities and networking. There is lots do over there but from an asthtetic standpoint NYC is an ugly city. Philadelphia's center city is better looking then NYC.

Chicago is a better city if you want big city with room to breathe.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:35 AM
 
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And another correct statement is that the Atlanta urban area encompasses over 100% more square miles than Phoenix despite only having 22% more population. That is quite a bit more spread out than Phoenix.
The point of this is that (surprise) yet another misleading bit of information that was a flat out lie made its way on this forum. We could also compare skylines (Phoenix falls pretty short of Atlanta), its infrastructure (also lacking compared to Atlanta), economy and global presence (still can't compare). We could also point out that many more people live in the urban areas of LA and New York than Phoenix, yet both also cover more square mileage. Aside from your inability to separate your identity from geography (hence your over-sensitivity and overcompensation) and a bizarre compulsion to make Phoenix look as good as possible, what's your point?
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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The point of this is that (surprise) yet another misleading bit of information that was a flat out lie made its way on this forum. We could also compare skylines (Phoenix falls pretty short of Atlanta), its infrastructure (also lacking compared to Atlanta), economy and global presence (still can't compare). We could also point out that many more people live in the urban areas of LA and New York than Phoenix, yet both also cover more square mileage. Aside from your inability to separate your identity from geography (hence your over-sensitivity and overcompensation) and a bizarre compulsion to make Phoenix look as good as possible, what's your point?
The question? Is Phoenix is urban or suburban? The fact is most Phoenicians live in a denser area than most do in Atlanta. Your constant negativity and weak attempts to make Phoenix look bad are pretty old. Nothing else you rattled off has anything to do with this.
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