Teacher walk-outs in Phoenix area (sales, 2015, buy)

[kitshipp]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

There are no school districts in Sun City, so it would make no sense to impose school taxes on anybody living in a community where there are no schools to fund.

This home is in a 'non age restricted area' of Sun City. How does that work with taxes?

https://www.redfin.com/AZ/Sun-City/2.../home/28249593

[AZ Manager]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Please don't even suggest taxing age restricted communities like Sun City. They are in place for many reasons: one of which is the absence of school taxes, which many older people prefer since they are on fixed incomes and don't have children in the system. There are no school districts in Sun City, so it would make no sense to impose school taxes on anybody living in a community where there are no schools to fund.

I agree 100%, I was just making a point. And just to be clear not all age restricted communities are exempt from paying school related property taxes, Sun City Grand does pay into the Dysart school district (which is why they lost their override a few years back), Trilogy in Vistancia pays into Peoria Unified, and I'd bet Pebble Creek does though I haven't checked to be sure. I'm pretty sure Sun City and Sun City West are the only areas that are exempt.

[LadyKatie3]

I’m really not sure about age restricted communities ‘existing for a number of reasons including exemption from school taxes.’ My understanding was this explicit exception to the fair housing laws is allowed only so that communities can provide dedicated facilities for the needs of elderly. They are extremely lenient in what they’ll count (e.g. tennis court, pool) but some sort of arguably for the needs of elderly facility is a sine qua non.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by kitshipp

This home is in a 'non age restricted area' of Sun City. How does that work with taxes?

https://www.redfin.com/AZ/Sun-City/2.../home/28249593

Confusing as hell to me because that's not located in the true constraints of Sun City. The map shows it's closer to Sun City West, but not situated in any defined municipality (Surprise or Peoria), so I'm not understanding why the address would be Sun City. If it's in a non age restricted area, the 55+ rules wouldn't apply. If it's in a school district, it would be subject to school taxes. According to Google Maps, the actual Sun City is confined to these boundaries:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Su...4d-112.2718239

[AZ Manager]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Confusing as hell to me because that's not located in the true constraints of Sun City. The map shows it's closer to Sun City West, but not situated in any defined municipality (Surprise or Peoria), so I'm not understanding why the address would be Sun City. If it's in a non age restricted area, the 55+ rules wouldn't apply. If it's in a school district, it would be subject to school taxes. According to Google Maps, the actual Sun City is confined to these boundaries:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Su...4d-112.2718239

That area is Crossriver and it isn't in any city limits yet, it will likely be annexed into Peoria eventually. As for the mailing address it is just assigned to Sun City by the post office, because of their assigned zip but that will change once annexed. Looking at their tax docs they pay into Peoria Unified and they use Peoria Schools, Peoria is about to build them a bridge to the east so they have better access to their assigned schools actually.

[kitshipp]

Originally Posted by AZ Manager

That area is Crossriver and it isn't in any city limits yet, it will likely be annexed into Peoria eventually. As for the mailing address it is just assigned to Sun City by the post office, because of their assigned zip but that will change once annexed. Looking at their tax docs they pay into Peoria Unified and they use Peoria Schools, Peoria is about to build them a bridge to the east so they have better access to their assigned schools actually.

Thanks! That is good to know. I heard that bridge has been in the works for a while but it looks like it's actually making headway.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by ghdana

Are we actually hurting for teachers? I know the schools around me are fine. I don't see salary's rising until we are in desperate need for them, and with the growing population there are plenty of people just thankful for having a job.

Yes, we are. There is a billboard on I-10 practically begging for teachers.

[AZgarden]

I thought the AZ Lotteries were funding the schools in AZ. Not true?

[NDak15]

Originally Posted by asufan

Apparently teachers in West Phoenix and Glendale are staging walk-outs to protest their low pay. While I am 100% in agreement that they need raises and have been on their side, I think they're going about this the wrong way. Walking out on kids is going to do nothing but anger the parents (voters) and the teachers #1 priority is supposed to be the kids, not their salary. They knew what the salaries would be when they signed up for the job, and many that I have spoken to gladly take the lower pay for all of the weeks off. While I do agree with their message, I don't like the method. Kids have to miss school and parents need to re-arrange their schedules last minute.

https://www.abc15.com/news/region-ph...y-over-low-pay

Bull****. They deserve better pay and this is how they're going about it. Nothing wrong with a little civil disobedience.

[smoochaz]

Well I got a text just now - late night - that AZ teachers announced school walkout beginning Thurs Apr 26.