What would you say the culture of Phoenix is like? (credit card, shop)

[veritased]

Originally Posted by take57

slightly more evolved than las vegas.

lol.

[Hal Roach]

Midwest twangers aggravated by New England liberals disquised as Californians.

[WSPHXPELON]

If you feel like taking the time to read through this thread, I think it will really shed some light on what typical Arizonans think of culture in their state: https://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...-words-az.html

[Hschlick84]

Red necks, ex-Californians, a few southerns and Midwest transplants. Basically a mix of Dallas and LA.

[Maroon197]

Originally Posted by WSPHXPELON

If you feel like taking the time to read through this thread, I think it will really shed some light on what typical Arizonans think of culture in their state: https://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...-words-az.html

You act as if Arizona only has one culture rather than a confluence of multiple varied cultures all at once. We have people from all over Latin America, natives from multiple unique tribes, midwesterners, Californians, and individuals from all over the globe. All of these different elements and cultures and traditions come together to create something entirely new. That’s why refusing to pronounce a city name the way the local custom dictates is offensive. This is Arizona, not Mexico or Illinois or Germany or Belarus. You should respect the local tradition and culture rather than trying to impose your own personal views. Respecting the way locals pronounce casa grande is the same as respecting the way locals pronounce Prescott.

[CAHLUV]

Originally Posted by grad_student200

It depends on the age group - for older adults (Generation X or older) think "Conservative Mormon".
For younger adults, many of them are transplants from liberal states like CA. For them, think "polyamorous or LGBT or not afraid to experiment even though straight") - hence the scene at modern ASU. I am trying to watch ASU football but keep getting flooded with mental images of that polyamorous, bisexual, homosexual lifestyle rampant at ASU. Do those football players still like girls? Do those female cheerleaders still like guys? The young have changed a lot compared to the 80s or before. I miss the Frank Kush games.

At least you are actually still watching ASU football...my mother is a graduate and she always says its mediocre with a decent season thrown in every few years. Times have definitely changed but reality is best served without delusion.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Maroon197

You act as if Arizona only has one culture rather than a confluence of multiple varied cultures all at once. We have people from all over Latin America, natives from multiple unique tribes, midwesterners, Californians, and individuals from all over the globe. All of these different elements and cultures and traditions come together to create something entirely new. That’s why refusing to pronounce a city name the way the local custom dictates is offensive. This is Arizona, not Mexico or Illinois or Germany or Belarus. You should respect the local tradition and culture rather than trying to impose your own personal views. Respecting the way locals pronounce casa grande is the same as respecting the way locals pronounce Prescott.

If anything that thread showed there is no local tradition on how to pronounce Casa Grande.

[Maroon197]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

If anything that thread showed there is no local tradition on how to pronounce Casa Grande.

Anyone who was born and raised in az knows how it has traditionally been pronounced. The confusion comes from people who try to force the Spanish pronunciation on it because they believe that’s how it “should” be. Casa grande is an American city with a unique pronunciation that is the product of a confluence of cultures. Just like Los Angeles.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Maroon197

Anyone who was born and raised in az knows how it has traditionally been pronounced. The confusion comes from people who try to force the Spanish pronunciation on it because they believe that’s how it “should” be. Casa grande is an American city with a unique pronunciation that is the product of a confluence of cultures. Just like Los Angeles.

I don’t agree. I think that pronunciation is due to Phoenixs large transplant population. If you go to a city in AZ populated by natives they pronounce it like the Spanish pronunciation.

[Spuggy]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

I don’t agree. I think that pronunciation is due to Phoenixs large transplant population. If you go to a city in AZ populated by natives they pronounce it like the Spanish pronunciation.

yes according to az central "Locals in the city pronounce it with the “e.” But farther away from the central Arizona city, the “e” drops."
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...them/71608938/

As an immigrant and newish in the area I just pronounce a place the way the locals prefer out of respect, so for us we pronounce the "e" for casa grande.