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Old 10-17-2020, 09:37 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Why are we still entertaining a thread that is based on stereotypes. Haven't we all learned by now stereotypes are not based in facts?
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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Stereotypes are started by something.
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:29 AM
 
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Weather: Phoenix temps soared over 100 in late April, and are still over 100, 6 months later. This is the new normal; heat is awful for 6-7 months of the year, and okay for 5-6 months. Phoenix has most of the big city issues of Los Angeles without the ocean, although I think the air quality is better. Pay is definitely higher in L.A., but rents and home prices are lower.

If you are hesitant but the job is extremely attractive, you could give it a year or two, and rent a place; don't buy. You'll know after a year whether to put down roots or use the second year to plan your escape.
I lived in Phoenix for a couple years. I don't agree that heat is awful 6-7 months out of the year. If you just like mild coastal California weather, that may be true. However, I actually liked it when the temp only peaked out in the low 100s. It was a little hot during the middle of the day, but in the mornings it was fine to go hiking or other outdoor activities and the nighttime temps were glorious. It was 3-4 months which I'd characterize as awful, with 2-3 more as decent and the remaining 5-7 months as glorious. All in all, I thought it was a pretty good climate year-round.

I think that Phoenix is also nicer on average vs LA. Don't get me wrong, there are amazing parts of LA that blow Phoenix out of the water. However, those are extremely expensive and out of reach for 95+% of the population. If you are middle class, its a much better lifestyle. Even with a somewhat lower salary, the cost of living is MUCH lower. You can afford a nice home in a great neighborhood and be closer to your work, so you're not dealing much with the terrible traffic issues of LA.

Also, while Phoenix's mountains aren't as nice as the outdoor activities around LA, its no slouch. You could go hike Camelback or you could do easy day trips to Saguaro National Park, Sedona, Flagstaff or Grand Canyon.
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Old 10-20-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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I lived in Phoenix for a couple years. I don't agree that heat is awful 6-7 months out of the year. If you just like mild coastal California weather, that may be true. However, I actually liked it when the temp only peaked out in the low 100s. It was a little hot during the middle of the day, but in the mornings it was fine to go hiking or other outdoor activities and the nighttime temps were glorious. It was 3-4 months which I'd characterize as awful, with 2-3 more as decent and the remaining 5-7 months as glorious. All in all, I thought it was a pretty good climate year-round.

I think that Phoenix is also nicer on average vs LA. Don't get me wrong, there are amazing parts of LA that blow Phoenix out of the water. However, those are extremely expensive and out of reach for 95+% of the population. If you are middle class, its a much better lifestyle. Even with a somewhat lower salary, the cost of living is MUCH lower. You can afford a nice home in a great neighborhood and be closer to your work, so you're not dealing much with the terrible traffic issues of LA.

Also, while Phoenix's mountains aren't as nice as the outdoor activities around LA, its no slouch. You could go hike Camelback or you could do easy day trips to Saguaro National Park, Sedona, Flagstaff or Grand Canyon.
If it reaches 100 degrees during the day, I can pretty much guarantee you the night will not be glorious unless you’re staying up past midnight. Today is October 20, and the high is 95. At 9:00pm it will still be above 80 degrees. 95 degrees would trigger an excessive heat warning in the majority of the country, but here it’s just another day. In October.

Also, our months of nice weather come in winter, when the days are at their shortest. While most of the country hits its stride in summer, when it might stay light until 9:00pm, we hit ours in December when it might stay light until 5:15.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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If it reaches 100 degrees during the day, I can pretty much guarantee you the night will not be glorious unless you’re staying up past midnight. Today is October 20, and the high is 95. At 9:00pm it will still be above 80 degrees. 95 degrees would trigger an excessive heat warning in the majority of the country, but here it’s just another day. In October.

Also, our months of nice weather come in winter, when the days are at their shortest. While most of the country hits its stride in summer, when it might stay light until 9:00pm, we hit ours in December when it might stay light until 5:15.
But 2020 has been out of the ordinary on many levels ... the weather is certainly no exception. The number of heat records broken this year has been phenomenal: most 100 degree days in a year, most 110 degree days in a year, most 115 degree days in a year, hottest two consecutive months on record, and the list goes on. I agree that it sucks to have temps of 95 to 100 this time of year, and it's even scarier when the extreme dryness is factored in. I don't know if these kinds of temperatures & drought conditions are going to be our "new normal", but the optimistic side of me says that 2020 is a one off situation.
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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If it reaches 100 degrees during the day, I can pretty much guarantee you the night will not be glorious unless you’re staying up past midnight. Today is October 20, and the high is 95. At 9:00pm it will still be above 80 degrees. 95 degrees would trigger an excessive heat warning in the majority of the country, but here it’s just another day. In October.

Also, our months of nice weather come in winter, when the days are at their shortest. While most of the country hits its stride in summer, when it might stay light until 9:00pm, we hit ours in December when it might stay light until 5:15.
It's 85 right now and it feels amazing out.

If you prefer cool/cold weather, Phoenix isn't for you.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:29 AM
 
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tivities around LA, its no slouch. You could go hike Camelback or you could do easy day trips to Saguaro National Park, Sedona, Flagstaff or Grand Canyon.
Or Phoenix Mountain Preserves, Or South Mountain Park, Or Usery Mountain Regional Park, or White Tank Mountain Regional Park, or Pinnacle Peak Park, or Phoenix Sonora Preserve, Or Lost Dutchman State Park...

There is a LOT more to hike than Camelback. I know a lot of locals tend to avoid Camelback, actually, (myself included) because it's too busy.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:24 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Or ... there are certainly other amenities in & around Phoenix to partake in besides hiking. I realize the COVID scare has forced some things to be closed or restricted, but ordinarily, there are pro sports during all times of the year. Also, a variety of museums, two large zoos, top notch restaurants, concert venues, city views from Compass on top of the Hyatt, Roosevelt Row, etc., etc.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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It's 85 right now and it feels amazing out.

If you prefer cool/cold weather, Phoenix isn't for you.

Exactly, there's far more cool/cold weather cities in this country then warm ones, there's basically too large warm/dry desert cities in the country and one is completely centered on gambling, Phoenix is the other one. If you want a traditional climate or you love cool weather there are countless cities to go live in that all basically look the same. Pick any place east of the Mississippi and North of the Mason Dixon line.


Some of us don't like being cold and prefer not to live in a humid climate. Phoenix is a great option for those of us fitting that bill. Winters in the 60/70s with options to drive to cooler weather if we want is the perfect option for me.
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Old 10-22-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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Or ... there are certainly other amenities in & around Phoenix to partake in besides hiking. I realize the COVID scare has forced some things to be closed or restricted, but ordinarily, there are pro sports during all times of the year. Also, a variety of museums, two large zoos, top notch restaurants, concert venues, city views from Compass on top of the Hyatt, Roosevelt Row, etc., etc.
Absolutely true, just making the point that the valley has MANY other option to hike than just Camelback if that is what you want to do.
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