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Old 02-24-2020, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Dubai can keep its vibe. They use portion of Sharia Law there...so there's that. Does it look beautiful? I guess. But their political system is vastly different. That entire place was built off of oil money by a very select few sheiks and princes. It's absolutely nothing like the US.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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Dubai is a global destination, Phoenix is more of a regional city. Phoenix will always be overshadowed by Los Angeles, which is under 400 miles away. With the exception of Abu Dhabi, which is a much smaller city, Dubai is geographically isolated and is one of the most important cities in the Middle East.

Dubai is known for being sophisticated, extremely wealthy and very modern. Phoenix is known for being near Scottsdale and attracting retirees.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:10 PM
 
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In a word, no.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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Dubai is far more walkable city than Phoenix despite its longer months of hot summers.


Is there a way for Phoenix to achieve that Dubai vibe?
Dubai far more walkable? Really? I've never been there, but everything I've read suggests that Dubai is clusters of skyscrapers connected by freeways and wide boulevards. A quick look via Google satellite and streetview doesn't do much to change that impression.

As for the Dubai vibe, I hope not. Dubai may have an image of prosperity and sophistication, but it comes with the exploitation of foreign labor and a dubious human rights record.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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As for the Dubai vibe, I hope not. Dubai may have an image of prosperity and sophistication, but it comes with the exploitation of foreign labor and a dubious human rights record.
I agree with this. Dubai to me seems like something out of a dystopian future horror/sci-fi movie.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Dubai far more walkable? Really? I've never been there, but everything I've read suggests that Dubai is clusters of skyscrapers connected by freeways and wide boulevards. A quick look via Google satellite and streetview doesn't do much to change that impression.

As for the Dubai vibe, I hope not. Dubai may have an image of prosperity and sophistication, but it comes with the exploitation of foreign labor and a dubious human rights record.
Exploitation of foreign labor is debatable. Sure, there maybe some violations but the fact is, they earn much more in Dubai than in their home country. It's still a win-win situation, these workers are paying taxes to the city. In Phoenix, we having illegal immigrants who gets their income but don't pay taxes.

Yes, oil is significant in fueling Dubai economy but then again, Phoenix metro has twice as much wealth than
Dubai. So, snowbirds turned out to be a better investment than oil?
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Old 02-24-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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Dubai far more walkable? Really? I've never been there, but everything I've read suggests that Dubai is clusters of skyscrapers connected by freeways and wide boulevards. A quick look via Google satellite and streetview doesn't do much to change that impression.

As for the Dubai vibe, I hope not. Dubai may have an image of prosperity and sophistication, but it comes with the exploitation of foreign labor and a dubious human rights record.

Yeah, but the OP says it's a win win so onward and upward.
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Old 02-24-2020, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Here
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Dubai is a global destination, Phoenix is more of a regional city. Phoenix will always be overshadowed by Los Angeles, which is under 400 miles away. With the exception of Abu Dhabi, which is a much smaller city, Dubai is geographically isolated and is one of the most important cities in the Middle East.

Dubai is known for being sophisticated, extremely wealthy and very modern. Phoenix is known for being near Scottsdale and attracting retirees.
Does Phoenix want to become a like Dubai or LA at all?

I quite enjoy Phoenix the way it is and that it's not swarming with everything all the time like LA is. You can actually drive around in Phoenix instead of spending 2 hours every afternoon on a parking lot.
Also, the housing is cheap and the trails and parks aren't crowded.
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Old 02-24-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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I knew this interest in Dubai sounded familiar. Then I remembered that back in the late '00s, Mayor Phil Gordon pursued relations between Phoenix and Dubai. After some travel there and a related controversy over his girlfriend's business dealings, I think we got a vague memorandum of understanding between the cities.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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Dubai far more walkable? Really? I've never been there, but everything I've read suggests that Dubai is clusters of skyscrapers connected by freeways and wide boulevards. A quick look via Google satellite and streetview doesn't do much to change that impression.

As for the Dubai vibe, I hope not. Dubai may have an image of prosperity and sophistication, but it comes with the exploitation of foreign labor and a dubious human rights record.

Yep, the culture of the city is kind of like Las Vegas in terms of amenities and wealth but without gambling. Like Phoenix it took a little effort to find the soul of Dubai, it's not in the flashy skyscrapers or man-made islands, the gold souk in Deiraoffers a bit of the historical heritage that Dubai was built on if you're looking for history.



And you're spot on, Dubai is separated in to a lot of high-rise districts that are many miles apart, walking between them is not really possible unless you really enjoy long walks. The Marina district was the most walkable area and had a nice beach as well but this is far from the iconic builds like Burj Khalifa.
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