I really love Phoenix, why do people leave this beautiful city? (Mesa: house, neighborhoods)

[marinezac]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

I continuously struggle with the temperatures here as a native, while acclimation is important and I continuously have to retrain myself every summer, some people just aren't cut out for it. This winter has been unusually warm, here in January my apartment is staying at 76-78 on it's own accord and not getting below until after dark. I'd rather have the inside temperature be cooler than this especially in January if I could, but my wallet outranks my comfort right now. The fact that I am considering A/C in January is just... insane to me. I do worry about the excessive growth here, and the sustainability of it all. I work in the water industry and I know the cities are doing pretty well at masking how big the problem is, and is only getting worse. As a 20 something I'm worried my hometown won't last, because I am attached to my roots and family being mostly here in Phoenix. It honestly saddens me, because we are focused on growth instead of preservation. Why continue to grow if it means an eventual death? We should be smarter about how we are handling our demand, and preserving more desert so water can recharge the aquifer.

The city itself is nice and improving, I would love a colder, slightly wetter city that was a lot like Phoenix. I do like the behavior and attitudes Phoenicians have, and the city has plenty of amenities that would be better with more quantity (more nightclubs, bars, restaurants of certain cuisine [even though we have a lot of different cuisines], etc. For me it's more of the climate than the city itself, but being born here I didn't have a choice. If I wasn't I'd be doubtful I'd ever move here unless it was a job opportunity.

How are they masking the water issues? I know Pinal is due for issues in the next decade, what about Phoenix proper?

[popwar]

I just came back early December to stay long term , but the holidays have delayed me getting a job to start me in my field in the area. I don’t have money for a 3rd month of rent with my roommate after just paying the 2nd so I’ll either have to go back SC or car camp here and wait just a little longer to hold out for work . Otherwise I wouldn’t leave .

[caryberry]

People move to Phoenix to reinvent themselves. When that fails - they leave.

[Maroon197]

Look up the concept of hedonic adaptation. Unless you’re some sort of refugee, moving to Phoenix isn’t going to make you any happier or more satisfied in the long run. In fact, if you actually like Phoenix that much, you’d be better off living somewhere else and vacationing in Phoenix from time to time. If you live here, it’s guaranteed that you will eventually adapt to the surroundings and all the things that you enjoyed will fade into the background and fail to stimulate anymore. That’s how our brains are wired. The grass sometimes is greener, but it’s irrelevant because once you’re over there you’ll want something else anyway. If more people understood this they could find ways to appreciate where they are instead of mindlessly flocking to mediocre cities like Phoenix and Charlotte imagining that it will somehow magically solve all their problems and lead to sustained happiness.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Maroon197

Look up the concept of hedonic adaptation. Unless you’re some sort of refugee, moving to Phoenix isn’t going to make you any happier or more satisfied in the long run. In fact, if you actually like Phoenix that much, you’d be better off living somewhere else and vacationing in Phoenix from time to time. If you live here, it’s guaranteed that you will eventually adapt to the surroundings and all the things that you enjoyed will fade into the background and fail to stimulate anymore. That’s how our brains are wired. The grass sometimes is greener, but it’s irrelevant because once you’re over there you’ll want something else anyway. If more people understood this they could find ways to appreciate where they are instead of mindlessly flocking to mediocre cities like Phoenix and Charlotte imagining that it will somehow magically solve all their problems and lead to sustained happiness.

Jesus, do you have a hate on for this place or what. I moved to Phoenix 20 years ago from NY, and I still like it here

[Maroon197]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Jesus, do you have a hate on for this place or what. I moved to Phoenix 20 years ago from NY, and I still like it here

That sound you hear is the entire point of my post flying over your head.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Maroon197

That sound you hear is the entire point of my post flying over your head.

I've been reading your posts for a whole year now about how much you hate this place. I've asked you why don't you move multiple times and haven't gotten a response from you.....

[Meowen]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

I beg to differ, plenty of people in the central city have grass. We have something called irrigation, maybe you've heard of it

Sure a few people have it, but it's not growing naturally and requires a ridiculous amount of wasted water to keep alive in the phoenix climate.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Meowen

Sure a few people have it, but it's not growing naturally and requires a ridiculous amount of wasted water to keep alive in the phoenix climate.

“A few people have it”? That’s laughable. Have you been here? Many homes are on irrigated lots with large lawns. Not to mention the golf courses and parks galore.

[ChandlerDobson]

Originally Posted by Maroon197

Look up the concept of hedonic adaptation. Unless you’re some sort of refugee, moving to Phoenix isn’t going to make you any happier or more satisfied in the long run. In fact, if you actually like Phoenix that much, you’d be better off living somewhere else and vacationing in Phoenix from time to time. If you live here, it’s guaranteed that you will eventually adapt to the surroundings and all the things that you enjoyed will fade into the background and fail to stimulate anymore. That’s how our brains are wired. The grass sometimes is greener, but it’s irrelevant because once you’re over there you’ll want something else anyway. If more people understood this they could find ways to appreciate where they are instead of mindlessly flocking to mediocre cities like Phoenix and Charlotte imagining that it will somehow magically solve all their problems and lead to sustained happiness.

Not me, I have established my permanent residency in Phoenix. My career training is helping me work with people of Arizona. Phoenix to me is paradise. I really love it here. Now Charlotte I don't like. Too humid and too green. I love the desert and I love the Saguaro Cacti. I love the smell of the air in Phoenix as well.

As for Charlotte, I've only been there once, and it was not my kind of city. I didn't really like the people there either. Phoenix is so much better than Charlotte in everything.