Phoenix, the most unaffordable "affordable" place to live (Yuma: rent, crime rates)

[goolsbyjazz]

Originally Posted by jaredC

That would be awful if we become the new San Diego. What distinguishes San Diego from other cities, besides their high CoL, is the ocean and fantastic weather. We have neither.

We will never become the new SD. Apples and oranges comparison.

[goolsbyjazz]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

So say it.

You and others have eloquently pointed it out in various ways but it needs to be said that cheap does not always mean better.

[joshuaTree101]

Originally Posted by goolsbyjazz

We will never become the new SD. Apples and oranges comparison.

I think that is what the OP is saying. I thought I read that somewhere in one of his/her posts.

[cjs123]

Originally Posted by joshuaTree101

I’m not even sure what you mean with this comment. Seems bizarre and out of place.

No doubt. Going by that the subsequent post, I think someone peed in the fluffster's cereal this morning.

One more for my Ignore list...

[walker1962]

Things will slow in AZ within 5 years for two reasons:
1. Lack of water, my opinion basically for all states south of Oregon and west of Texas.
2. People who moved there realizing they don't like desert environments.

[Jimrob1]

Arizona is not affordable, Florida is not affordable. The whole damn sunbelt region is no longer what would be considered affordable. Unless you have the money to pay the costs that keep rising, then its best to avoid these areas.

I've been seeing a few videos on the Phoenix area concerning rents. There is a man there that goes to a number of the cities in the Metro and looks at Apts. He goes on a tour of the apts with the leasing agents and films the whole tour. I cannot believe that people would pay the rents being charged for these places in that area. Then they still have the utilities, water, sewage and I think he said sales tax. Is that true people pay sales tax on apt rentals in Metro Phoenix. Seems odd the prices went up as fast as they did, especially increasing this year considering all that has gone on. Then again people are paying the same high rental rates in Florida. I'm glad I own a house. I don't know how people can manage, or maybe that's why so many find themselves out on the streets now days.

[sacreole]

Originally Posted by 87112

El paso is still affordable. PHX is a playground for snowbirds.

Even the El Paso real estate market is heating up. They’re starting to see bidding wars.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by jaredC

Yep. Sadly I think you are absolutely correct. Most people say to get a better, higher paying job. What of those that cannot. Like teachers. My ex is a teacher and she makes $52k a year. How is she going to afford an apartment? No longer is she looking to buy a house. That boat has sailed. And if all her options lead to roommates, as we share custody of our daughter, I wouldn’t feel comfortable with her having some random person living under the same roof as my daughter. There’s gotta be another option.

There are other options. For some odd reason, there have been few suggestions about condo living, which is a great alternative to renting an apartment, and it's generally less expensive than buying a house. That's not to say that all condos are inexpensive, but some good deals can be found on small units (under 1,000 s.f.).

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

They're not SOL. That's the point. I'm not even talking about the less fortunate though. More so the mediocre who move to a place just so they can buy a bigger house than they could afford elsewhere, whose only motivation to the area is its cheapness. That doesn't add value.

That, and the weather. I could never understand the concept of uprooting and coming here just because of the climate. For one thing, it's not all that great when the summer heat is factored in. With the drought currently in critical states with possible water shortages in the near future ... I'd say the climate is one of the most asinine reasons to move here. The climate could also be our demise if any of the long term predictions come true.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by 9162

Blame your president. Immigration at an all time high, and all of them are allowed to stay. Not just a few—hundreds of thousands, monthly. They all need housing, plus, they require tax dollars to live. Housing, clothing, healthcare, education (children), food stamps, interpreters, ESL classes, jobs—which dilute wages. More destruction to our quality of life.

Immigrants are causing real estate prices to skyrocket? That’s a new one! Fear-mongering is at an all time high. And speak for yourself, my quality of life is high and isn’t the least bit being destroyed. Sorry yours is, but that’s on you.

[Katera]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

There are other options. For some odd reason, there have been few suggestions about condo living, which is a great alternative to renting an apartment, and it's generally less expensive than buying a house. That's not to say that all condos are inexpensive, but some good deals can be found on small units (under 1,000 s.f.).



That, and the weather. I could never understand the concept of uprooting and coming here just because of the climate. For one thing, it's not all that great when the summer heat is factored in. With the drought currently in critical states with possible water shortages in the near future ... I'd say the climate is one of the most asinine reasons to move here. The climate could also be our demise if any of the long term predictions come true.

And yet 10's of thousands of people move to AZ for one reason...the climate. Do you know better than them? Evidently not. Also, I just checked....water still coming out of my faucet. Yea me

Dummy.