W Olive Ave and N75th Ave in Glendale, okay area? (Avondale: homes, safe area)

[Ponderosa]

I retract my "no" remark. Like a lot of people in Phoenix, I saw 75th Ave and had that reaction. But I got to thinking that I have relatives who live in that area and it isn't all that bad. The really sketchy areas out that way are around McDowell, Thomas, etc. Going north gets better. Olive area is decent. It is not affluent suburbia, but these remarks that you have to carry a gun to feel safe are ridiculous (even further south). There is no area in Phoenix where I would be walking the dog after dark anymore, but if you are not into crime and drug dealing yourself, your victim chances at home are decidedly in your favor.

[Sno0909]

Anywhere near Grand Ave (East of the 101) is not what most would consider nice or appealing to the eye. You may not be in any immediate danger of being mugged, but I just don't know why someone would voluntarily choose to live amongst warehouses and used tire stores.

You previously were asking about living in Maricopa, so I assume location is not that important to you - but price is. Do yourself a favor and look at Casa Grande or San Tan Valley. You can get a newer home in a safe area for probably the same price. My $0.02

[Bondurant]

West Valley in general is not what many people think of as "desirable". There is some merit as there are pockets that have the highest crime areas of the valley. But many generalize the entire west valley and will be quick to write the entire area off. The more flippant responses warning you likely fall into this mindset and will speak with no real knowledge of the area. I have no data in front of me but would wager you would be fine unless treading into waters that would lead to trouble.

[FlurryCat]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

There is no area in Phoenix where I would be walking the dog after dark anymore, but if you are not into crime and drug dealing yourself, your victim chances at home are decidedly in your favor.

I like to walk. After dark. In Phoenix. I don't have a dog, so I walk alone or occasionally I'll put a leash on Mrs. FCat. There's a good 30% of the city that isn't "scary" to me at night. So you clutch your pearls (as DetroitN8V would put it) and buy into the fear manufactured by those who would profit from it, and I'll continue to live a nice, relaxed life.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Bondurant

West Valley in general is not what many people think of as "desirable". There is some merit as there are pockets that have the highest crime areas of the valley. But many generalize the entire west valley and will be quick to write the entire area off. The more flippant responses warning you likely fall into this mindset and will speak with no real knowledge of the area. I have no data in front of me but would wager you would be fine unless treading into waters that would lead to trouble.

The area sucks. It’s as simple as that. Is it high crime? In areas. Is it ugly? Yes!

[YAZ]

Gotta love our comments.

Truth: Your vehicle may be stolen in East Mesa.

[FlurryCat]

But the odds are that it won't be.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by YAZ

Gotta love our comments.

Truth: Your vehicle may be stolen in East Mesa.

It may be stolen from north Scottsdale too. So what?

[rmcf]

Originally Posted by WK91

You couldn’t pay me to live in that area.

But if you insist, I recommend being locked and loaded at all times, not just at night.

And it’s only gonna get worse as more and more people pour into Phoenix.

It will be temporary and I don't have much say in the matter. Thank you for the advice.

[rmcf]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

I retract my "no" remark. Like a lot of people in Phoenix, I saw 75th Ave and had that reaction. But I got to thinking that I have relatives who live in that area and it isn't all that bad. The really sketchy areas out that way are around McDowell, Thomas, etc. Going north gets better. Olive area is decent. It is not affluent suburbia, but these remarks that you have to carry a gun to feel safe are ridiculous (even further south). There is no area in Phoenix where I would be walking the dog after dark anymore, but if you are not into crime and drug dealing yourself, your victim chances at home are decidedly in your favor.

I can avoid those areas. I will mostly be busy going to work during the day (which is close by) and maybe going to a 24 hour gym if it's too dangerous to go for a run outside/in the neighborhood. I don't plan to venture further south for any reason. It's reassuring to know it's not the most dangerous area so thanks for updating your answer.

Out of curiosity are you generally against carrying a firearm or would you say it's just not necessary in this one instance? Not trying to start a gun debate, just curious if you think there's any point where one would require a firearm in Phoenix. Thanks again.