Yet another data center coming to town. Facebook building on Elliot by the 202 in Mesa (Phoenix: renters)

[marinezac]

https://www.azfamily.com/news/facebo...lock_id=997198

Is Phoenix the capital of data centers at this point?

[john3232]

Good for Mesa!

Facebook says the facility is expected to create 100 operational jobs and up to 1,500 construction jobs.

[Ponderosa]

All these data centers are nothing to celebrate. They provide very few jobs or economic activity once construction is finished and consume prodigious amounts of our dwindling water supplies.

https://time.com/5814276/google-data-centers-water/

[marinezac]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

All these data centers are nothing to celebrate. They provide very few jobs or economic activity once construction is finished and consume prodigious amounts of our dwindling water supplies.

https://time.com/5814276/google-data-centers-water/

Yeah always seemed like easy way score pontifical points and make it seem like there is a ton of jobs but Phoenix still is not attracting head quarters of these firms and instead is a stop over for data centers as they go to Texas.

[john3232]

Originally Posted by marinezac

Yeah always seemed like easy way score pontifical points and make it seem like there is a ton of jobs but Phoenix still is not attracting head quarters of these firms and instead is a stop over for data centers as they go to Texas.

There's a lot of competition. While Phx certainly does need to do more it wasn't long ago the only time Phx or AZ was in the news nationally was because of Joe A, and lawsuits over state immigration laws. I recall seeing t-shirts sold in San Diego declaring AZ a no-go zone.

Today AZ is a purple state and the fifth largest city in the country. Liberals (or at least my brother...) have given Phx the green light. It's a "good city. " Nevertheless city officials need to do a lot more. The late Ed Lee caught a lot of heat but he brought jobs into SF. Phx officials are going to have to sweeten the pie.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/13/...lley-tech-jobs

Mesa? Ever been downtown? It's...quaint. Mesa to Phx seems a bit like what Daly City is to SF. You live in Mesa when you can't afford the more popular areas. I have or had renters who moved to Mesa from Tempe and Scottsdale after being priced out. Key point for those living in Daly City and working in downtown SF is access to the Bart station. In Mesa it's the 60 freeway (or light rail) into Phx.

1500 hundred construction jobs and 100 jobs once it's finished? Probably the best Mesa is going to get. The water usage? The article mentions recycled water. I'll let others argue over the below.

Google has paid more attention to water use in recent years. It relies on recycled water or seawater where it can to avoid using drinking water or draining local supplies. Google also says it saves water by recirculating it through cooling systems multiple times. In Mesa, the company is working with authorities on a water credits program, but said it’s too early to share more details.
https://time.com/5814276/google-data-centers-water/

[Voebe]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

All these data centers are nothing to celebrate. They provide very few jobs or economic activity once construction is finished and consume prodigious amounts of our dwindling water supplies.

Yes, thank you. Also, I believe, prodigious amounts of energy.

[pantstofry]

Pretty sure they power them with 100% renewables and get close to net zero water usage. At least the ones in Prineville OR did, so I'd imagine any new builds would follow the same protocol. Not that it isn't still a drain on resources up front, but less so than most realize. I still think they're better suited for remote areas/small towns, but I guess the prospective location already has other DCs nearby.