08-29-2021, 04:43 PM
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Of course. It's a known fact that the more desirable an area is, the higher the home values generally are. Income is a factor as well. As the saying goes: a person can't expect to have a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget. If you want cheap home prices with some extra money to spare, you could always buy a home in a place like Chattanooga, TN and rent out a room to Bubba or Billy Bob. Even cheaper than that is McAllen, TX where there are high rates of poverty & unemployment ... but hey, at least you'd have a good amount of warm weather & sunshine!
Yeah, I don't think that philosophy is going to win many people over. People don't like being told they can't live somewhere, not to mention that their labor is usually still needed in the marketplace
Your fantasy of a Phoenix area only inhabited by rich people will never happen
08-29-2021, 05:12 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that philosophy is going to win many people over. People don't like being told they can't live somewhere, not to mention that their labor is usually still needed in the marketplaceYour fantasy of a Phoenix area only inhabited by rich people will never happen
I didn't read his words that way. Rather, he prefers the Phoenix area inhabited by rich
er (more driven) people. Meaning, his hot buttons are people coming here for the sun and low COL. Currently, it's getting more spendy. Let's call in pseudo gentrification. I mean, who would you rather live around? It's a key reason why I moved.
Check out Brookside II Sports Bar and Grille in Surprise. It's a gem! Nothing finer than dining while watching Ultimate Fighting.
Of course there are some great areas in Surprise. But there is some... Well.... Interesting folks.
08-29-2021, 05:23 PM
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I didn't read his words that way. Rather, he prefers the Phoenix area inhabited by rich
er (more driven) people. Meaning, his hot buttons are people coming here for the sun and low COL. Currently, it's getting more spendy. Let's call in pseudo gentrification. I mean, who would you rather live around? It's a key reason why I moved.
Check out Brookside II Sports Bar and Grille in Surprise. It's a gem! Nothing finer than dining while watching Ultimate Fighting.
Of course there are some great areas in Surprise. But there is some... Well.... Interesting folks.
I'm more familiar with him than you are. He hates poor people, absolutely despises their existence, and wants them all gone from this area
08-29-2021, 05:28 PM
Location: northwest valley, az
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does he "hate" "poor people", or ,just want more motivated and people with higher goals to move here?
08-29-2021, 05:41 PM
Location: az
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Yeah, I don't think that philosophy is going to win many people over. People don't like being told they can't live somewhere, not to mention that their labor is usually still needed in the marketplaceYour fantasy of a Phoenix area only inhabited by rich people will never happen
Of course not but today when I list a rental home in the Phx metro I'm seeing adults (unrelated) apply together. This is very common in a city like SF and how many afford to stay there. Today, if someone works in Phx but can no longer afford an apartment they will need to live in another city and commute or move with a roommate or two.
But what they can't do is demand the cost of housing remain the same because they can't afford what their neighbors pay. Supply and demand dictates the cost. I've mentioned before I have had Mesa tenants who moved from Scottsdale and Tempe after being priced out.
And speaking of supply and demand: I received an email this morning from *Zillow - market report/85249 zip. Currently 474k up from 446k in 2020. Prediction: 11% increase next year. Homes for sale 131. Recently sold 77.
*Zillow isn't as in-depth or as accurate as the Comford Report which is the go-to guide for the AZ housing market. However, it does show a tread. In other words 85249 will likely go up next year but not necessarily 11% or even close to that number.
My guess is next year my property- 85249 will max out around 500k and the rent- $2600- 2800.
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08-29-2021, 05:55 PM
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The Valley’s housing market is still red-hot! According to new data from the Arizona Regional Multiple Listing Service, home prices jumped $100,000 dollars in just one year in Maricopa County. MLS data shows the median price for a single-family detached home rose to $450,000 in July, compared to $350,000 a year ago.
I get the impression that you're pleased that we're becoming uinaffordable.
08-29-2021, 06:15 PM
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I get the impression that you're pleased that we're becoming uinaffordable.
Guessing that poster already owns a house, incumbent owners love rising property values (everyone else, including their children, don't)
08-29-2021, 06:18 PM
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I'm more familiar with him than you are. He hates poor people, absolutely despises their existence, and wants them all gone from this area
Wow.
That's a pretty strong statement. Are you saying he wants to install gas chambers?
If you wouldn't mind, what about me???
08-29-2021, 06:18 PM
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Guessing that poster already owns a house, incumbent owners love rising property values (everyone else, including their children, don't)
my children love rising property values, as it increases their inheritance..
08-29-2021, 06:29 PM
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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my children love rising property values, as it increases their inheritance..
I know you're retired, so guessing your kids are grown and don't live in the Valley. I was speaking of working people with kids between the ages of 18-30.
Reminds me of one time when I was at a Dennys in Ventura, CA grabbing breakfast, and there was a group of high school cheerleaders there, and the first thought that crossed my mind is that not one of these girls will probably still be living in SoCal in 10 years (because they will be priced out)
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Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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