Metro Phoenix's housing shortage could get even worse, thanks to 2 costly problems

[john3232]

Originally Posted by jnojr

What's heartbreaking id sor those who provide rental properties to others be pilloried as "scumbags". They have costs, too. Their taxes go up. The cost of repairs and maintenance go up just as fast as anyone elses'. They have to buy insurance. But it's terrible for them to want to not only recoup their expenses but actually make money so they and their families can live?

Sorry, no... those who expect others to take the hit to provide "affordable housing" are the scumbags. Whining like this is one of the many reasons I got out of the rental business.

As long as I can evict tenants in a timely manner for breaking their lease agreement I will keep my rentals. Properly screening tenants relieves most of the headaches. The same with making sure everything is good working order before renters move in.

I still have on tenant which a property management company placed and like most renters accepted by a PM there have been problems. When I took over my rental properties I tried being an agreeable landlord but learned some renters will take advantage. Now it's pretty much no to everything.

No you can't pet-sit your sister dog while she's "in the hospital." No your cousins can't stay with you for "a couple of weeks", no you can't install a new outlets, no you can't swap the AC thermostat for a programable one without permission and no you can't use any AC filter you want. (I provide the AC filters.)

I run my rentals as a business. If renters aren't following their lease agreement I will move to evict them. And they understand this which make my life easier.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by jnojr

What's heartbreaking id sor those who provide rental properties to others be pilloried as "scumbags". They have costs, too. Their taxes go up. The cost of repairs and maintenance go up just as fast as anyone elses'. They have to buy insurance. But it's terrible for them to want to not only recoup their expenses but actually make money so they and their families can live?

Sorry, no... those who expect others to take the hit to provide "affordable housing" are the scumbags. Whining like this is one of the many reasons I got out of the rental business.

Disagree with almost everything you posted

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by dontbelievehim

Most metros/cities don't have all the available land metro Phoenix has tho. And I'm sure there's lots of infill land within Phoenix because:

"As a consequence Phoenix became a textbook case of urban sprawl for geographers. Even though it is the fifth most populated city, the large area gives it a low density rate of approximately 2,797 people per square mile."

Even if you take out park land, Phoenix is still behind a lot of other cities in density.

Many other metros have much more sprawl than Phoenix's does. The reason Phoenix seems so sprawling is the large land mass of the Valley cities. The city of Phoenix covers over 500 square miles, and a lot of the suburbs like Scottsdale, Peoria, Mesa, Surprise, and Buckeye have annexed a massive amount of square miles into their city limits. A good share of this land is still undeveloped, especially in Buckeye, Surprise, and the north part of Peoria.

I agree about the lower density, but it's largely due to the reasons I mentioned above. Phoenix alone has a number of master planned communities & districts (or "villages") within the city limits, and many of them look & feel like separate suburbs. In fact, I actually wish the city would deannex Paradise Valley Village, Deer Valley, Norterra, Desert Ridge, Laveen, and Ahwatukee. That alone would give Phoenix a higher density rate while reducing the city population, but it would still put Phoenix over the one million mark.