Douglas Ranch Project Expected To Bring 100K Homes To Phoenix (Goodyear: living in, airport)

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by marinezac

Did you read the article? It repeatedly touts its easy access to Phoenix lol. It acts as if the 10 already isn’t horrible lol

Biden's infrastructure bill has funding for I-11 that would run right next to the project (likely the reason they are ready to go with it). Parts of what will be I-11 are the 303, so it would connect to the 10 and the 17 with freeways.

[bobsell]

Originally Posted by Bondurant

Commuters may not be the target.

45 miles from downtown Phoenix. Most definitely not the target.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by bobsell

45 miles from downtown Phoenix. Most definitely not the target.

Johnson Ranch in San Tan is 50 miles from downtown and they are selling homes there like crazy. You presume everyone is going downtown. For what? Hopefully people will be able to find employment much closer to their homes.

We are getting big, big, big like LA and downtown Phoenix may not matter much. Who knows? Maybe there will be a small airport built out that way, or Goodyear could start commercial flights - or Luke could close down like WIlliams Field did.

[KurtAZ]

For anyone interested...Douglas Ranch is just the start of the I-11 Expansion Plans.

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Johnson Ranch in San Tan is 50 miles from downtown and they are selling homes there like crazy. You presume everyone is going downtown. For what? Hopefully people will be able to find employment much closer to their homes.

We are getting big, big, big like LA and downtown Phoenix may not matter much. Who knows? Maybe there will be a small airport built out that way, or Goodyear could start commercial flights - or Luke could close down like WIlliams Field did.

A PHX-GDY Airport is part of the proposals, yes. Along with multiple freight ports, business parks, etc.

[marinezac]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

It might happen. The development partnership has a pretty good pedigree and history of successful MPC development. They say they are selling lots in the first half of next year, so they clearly have been at work with the engineers.

I don't doubt they do build some houses but, 100k houses? I do not see happening

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by KurtAZ

A PHX-GDY Airport is part of the proposals, yes. Along with multiple freight ports, business parks, etc.

Oh, no! Hopefully that map refers to the existing GDY airport and no conversion to commercial ops is planned. I do think that we will eventually see small airports like in the LA area and Florida.

[marinezac]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Biden's infrastructure bill has funding for I-11 that would run right next to the project (likely the reason they are ready to go with it). Parts of what will be I-11 are the 303, so it would connect to the 10 and the 17 with freeways.

But the 10 and 17 already have horrible traffic, especially in the west valley, shuttling more traffic onto is going to give them California level traffic. I do not see how they are touting the easy commute argument for anyone not naive.

As they add more and more warehouses in Goodyear area it will just get worse. Plus what's the completing date on a complete interstate 11, like 2080?

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by marinezac

But the 10 and 17 already have horrible traffic, especially in the west valley, shuttling more traffic onto is going to give them California level traffic. I do not see how they are touting the easy commute argument for anyone not naive.

As they add more and more warehouses in Goodyear area it will just get worse. Plus what's the completing date on a complete interstate 11, like 2080?

10 will look like Katy TX and I have seen conceptual plans for a double deck I 17.

[pbenjamin]

Somebody should fix the subject line. This unnecessary pile of sprawl would be in Buckeye, not Phoenix. This poorly written article (WTF is patch.com, anyway?) does not once mention Buckeye.