If you're sympathetic toward refugees

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I disagree because part of the question is how "refugee" is or should be defined. One definition is: "a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster". But for some that is expanded to economic woes.

“Gathering Humanity coordinates donations and volunteers to help others in need in our community, including refugees who are being resettled in the Phoenix Valley, immigrants seeking asylum, youth aging out of foster care, women leaving domestic violence shelters and others experiencing homelessness.”

Where are you seeing anything illegal in there?

[WanderingRebel]

Can't anyone coming from Mexico or Central America claim to be a refugee? All they have to say is they are fleeing gang or cartel violence.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

“Gathering Humanity coordinates donations and volunteers to help others in need in our community, including refugees who are being resettled in the Phoenix Valley, immigrants seeking asylum, youth aging out of foster care, women leaving domestic violence shelters and others experiencing homelessness.”

Where are you seeing anything illegal in there?

Where did I talk about illegality?

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by WanderingRebel

Can't anyone coming from Mexico or Central America claim to be a refugee? All they have to say is they are fleeing gang or cartel violence.

Which was my earlier point, missed by the other poster. Perhaps your phrasing is better.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

Where did I talk about illegality?

Here:

Originally Posted by phetaroi

When I traveled to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, and even Burma, at each country I had to show my passport and visa (or in some cases could get a short-term visa for tourism upon arrival). In no cases could I just walk into the country I was going to visit. I had to proceed via legal, internationally recognized procedures. In fact, when I would return to my own country -- the United States Of America -- I had to go through customs and provide my passport. That's the way it should be. No illegal border hopping.

Again, interesting thoughts but not on-topic. 'Refugee' is a legal status and therefore has nothing to do with "illegal border hopping".

https://www.uscis.gov/forms/explore-...refugee-status

[WanderingRebel]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Here:



Again, interesting thoughts but not on-topic. 'Refugee' is a legal status and therefore has nothing to do with "illegal border hopping".

https://www.uscis.gov/forms/explore-...refugee-status

But again, can't any "illegal" just claim refugee status?

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by WanderingRebel

But again, can't any "illegal" just claim refugee status?

Sure. There’s an application process to obtaining refugee status though.

[ringler24]

Originally Posted by WanderingRebel

But again, can't any "illegal" just claim refugee status?

Anyone can request asylum but it's really hard to get your case approved. You have to have a legitimate case and be able to prove you are in danger for your life if you are deported. A lot of false perceptions out there. Refugees who come here on a visa have been vetted and often waited over a decade or more in a refugee camp abroad before qualifying to come to the US.