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Old 06-17-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Are you saying Biden's US policy is responsible for the entire GD world's cost of energy?! I never realized a president's wishes (which many of his desires have been overturned by the courts) had such a high impact on gas prices.

Here is your homework assignment. Study this graph https://www.macrotrends.net/2501/cru...e-prices-chart (the cost of a barrel of oil and the cost of a gallon of gas). See if you see a pattern.
SOME of his policies have exacerbated the issue for sure though. But he's not solely to blame for the high prices of course, as there are other factors in play.

 
Old 06-17-2022, 10:14 AM
 
Location: az
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And if you were to look at gas prices in the rest of the world, next time you filled up at $6 a gallon you'd be screaming Bargain. $11 a gallon in Hong Kong. And $10 a gallon in Europe, and do you hear them complain?

One solution is to drop the sanctions against Venezuela/Maduro, which our current President and past President refused to do. My how picky we've gotten over which Dictator to buy oil from!! Yes, the oil from Venezuela is more difficult to process, but there were 2 refineries built during the Chavez years to handle it. Chevron is standing by in Venezuela, just in case.

If our public transit was more fun to ride in this country, more would use it. 5 trips to Central America, I rode in the back of pick-up trucks, holding on to a bar, and riding the fun chicken buses, where vendors hop, on and off, along the way selling anything from delicious friend chicken to vitamins to everything under the sun.

All those pick-up trucks prowling our streets could be used for public transit and our old school buses. And down there you need not be at a designated bus stop, just flag one down anywhere and they'll stop for you. What a luxury!
Could be...

Rich Dad Poor Dad' author Robert Kiyosaki touts canned tuna as the best investment today — as gold, silver, and bitcoin aren't edible
https://news.yahoo.com/news/rich-dad...154627142.html
 
Old 06-17-2022, 03:02 PM
 
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And if you were to look at gas prices in the rest of the world, next time you filled up at $6 a gallon you'd be screaming Bargain. $11 a gallon in Hong Kong. And $10 a gallon in Europe, and do you hear them complain?

One solution is to drop the sanctions against Venezuela/Maduro, which our current President and past President refused to do. My how picky we've gotten over which Dictator to buy oil from!! Yes, the oil from Venezuela is more difficult to process, but there were 2 refineries built during the Chavez years to handle it. Chevron is standing by in Venezuela, just in case.

If our public transit was more fun to ride in this country, more would use it. 5 trips to Central America, I rode in the back of pick-up trucks, holding on to a bar, and riding the fun chicken buses, where vendors hop, on and off, along the way selling anything from delicious friend chicken to vitamins to everything under the sun.

All those pick-up trucks prowling our streets could be used for public transit and our old school buses. And down there you need not be at a designated bus stop, just flag one down anywhere and they'll stop for you. What a luxury!
So gas is more in some other countries and you rode on a truck in some other country.

Amazing stories.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 03:05 PM
 
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Could be...

Rich Dad Poor Dad' author Robert Kiyosaki touts canned tuna as the best investment today — as gold, silver, and bitcoin aren't edible
https://news.yahoo.com/news/rich-dad...154627142.html
He's an idiot. Yes, I liked his first book too.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 07:22 PM
 
Location: az
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4 reasons for high gas prices (which aren’t Joe Biden’s fault—and one critical way he’s adding to the problem.)

1. A pandemic-induced supply and demand mismatch
One of the key culprits in the rise in U.S. gas prices over the past few years is the now familiar pandemic-driven mismatch of supply and demand.

2. The war in Ukraine and a European energy crisis
In 2021, Russia was the world’s third-largest oil producer and the second-largest producer of natural gas, according to the International Energy Agency.

3. Challenges increasing production
Another factor affecting gas prices over the past year has been challenges in increasing production.

4. Price gouging?
Biden has also blamed “price gouging” for some of the recent increase in gas prices, arguing that oil and gas companies shouldn’t “pad their profits” at the expense of Americans in a March tweet.

How Biden isn’t helping
Biden does bear at least some blame on the production side, however, according to Hatfield, who flagged his decision to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline as a key factor. “What a lot of people don’t appreciate is canceling one pipeline is really canceling all the pipelines,” Hatfield said. “Because we need federal government support to get pipelines done in the United States, there’s always going to be tremendous local opposition, so if the federal government is not behind you, then you’re definitely not going to get any pipeline built.” Hatfield also said that it is “nearly impossible to build a new refinery in the United States” owing to stiff regulation, which makes it more difficult for oil companies to increase production.
https://fortune.com/2022/06/08/why-a...iden-to-blame/
 
Old 06-17-2022, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Biden sent a letter to oil companies blaming them for high prices. The main oil honcho sent a letter back saying its the presidents policies thats holding them back from ramping up drilling and lowering prices.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 07:46 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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How Biden isn’t helping
Biden does bear at least some blame on the production side, however, according to Hatfield, who flagged his decision to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline as a key factor. “What a lot of people don’t appreciate is canceling one pipeline is really canceling all the pipelines,” Hatfield said. “Because we need federal government support to get pipelines done in the United States, there’s always going to be tremendous local opposition, so if the federal government is not behind you, then you’re definitely not going to get any pipeline built.” Hatfield also said that it is “nearly impossible to build a new refinery in the United States” owing to stiff regulation, which makes it more difficult for oil companies to increase production.
https://fortune.com/2022/06/08/why-a...iden-to-blame/
If Biden was any kind of a leader, he would have allowed Keystone to proceed, opened more U.S. drilling sites to meet the demand, and reduced the stiff regulation so that new refineries could be built. However, I never expected him or any Democrat to give these any consideration, and Republicans aren't much better in moving forward on these matters either.

But I agree that Biden isn't all to blame. Keystone was strongly opposed by environmentalists & tribal communities. Oil spills also occurred, which prompted TransCanada to shut it down. NIMBYs, enviros, and tribes also are against building refineries, which would be much cleaner & more technologically advanced than the older ones, so there really is no legitimate reason for the opposition. One reason why Arizona's gas prices are higher than the national average is the fact that we don't have refineries, and we rely on old pipelines from CA & TX.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 07:55 PM
 
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$85 to fill my cars little tank. Crazy to think that a quick run to the west side or AJ from Tempe is now $10-15 round trip.

Even my motorcycle tank is $30+ to fill.
On the other hand, it makes me think of a friend who'll drive for miles to check out a supermarket a half-hour away that may have apples for ten cents less a pound. I'm surprised how many people don't "optimize" their driving to be more efficient.
 
Old 06-17-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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Talking about the Keystone expansion is silly. It would have increased global oil production by less than 1%. It wouldn’t have moved the needle at all in terms of global pricing. It’s an easy scapegoat for those that don’t know anything beyond the finger-pointing talking point of the month
 
Old 06-17-2022, 10:36 PM
 
Location: prescott az
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The administration does not want people driving anywhere. He/they want everyone to buy an electric vehicle or stay at home. This is how he/they think global warming will come to an end. Less dirty air; cleaner air means a better ecological living for all. We must save the planet first. To do it, we will have to stay at home. JMHO
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