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Old 12-06-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I understand what your saying and I understand the reasoning behind the HOA. I'm just incensed that I have to pay a governing body to inforce what should be held up by local laws. Paying a monthly fee on top of local taxes. Does that make sense? Mortgage, Taxes, Insurance, Utilities, and here comes HOA fees. geeeze!!

On top of that, I've seen HOAs tell ppl they had to park their cars in the garage, they can't hang laundry outside, they can't do this, they can't do that... and the list goes on.

I want peaceful living and don't want endless montly fees which keep one from having a comfortable life. Suppose I want to take off work for a month or two? Even if I have the house and land paid off I still have to worry about my good friend the HOA.
I didn't mean to start an HOA discusson. It's just that people coming from the east (I don't know about FL) expecting to find an acre or so of land parked out with grass and trees are in for a big surprise. Many if not most acre plus properties are just dirt and weeds with a bunch of junk piled on them. There are some with irrigation that look better, but that costs a lot more.
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:47 PM
 
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In AZ the land is desert so most people don't really want too much of it, hence the homes are built close together.
Lol. People don't want much land? They want more than being so close to their neighbor that they can hear him sneeze!
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:51 PM
 
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I didn't mean to start an HOA discusson. It's just that people coming from the east (I don't know about FL) expecting to find an acre or so of land parked out with grass and trees are in for a big surprise. Many if not most acre plus properties are just dirt and weeds with a bunch of junk piled on them. There are some with irrigation that look better, but that costs a lot more.

I understand. I've lived in Socal and have been to Phoenix before. I have an aunt that lives in Gilbert.

I like a house that sits on land, even if it is desert. I'd like to have about 5 acres fenced with the house in the middle. So I can see the night sky and not have to deal with neighbor's noise.

Doesn't look like that's the kind of property that the market's full of in Phoenix though so I will have to compromise.

Still would like to stay clear of the HOAs though.
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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Some older properties in the Phoenix area have more land, and trees, etc. but you have to search around. A job in and of itself. Some HOA's aren't super strict, but you have to search, drive around, etc.
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:57 PM
 
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Yes but you still have to PAY the HOA.

Why do HOAs need so much to govern? I've seen them for nearly 200.00 a month!!

Don't know what it is in Phoenix though.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I understand. I've lived in Socal and have been to Phoenix before. I have an aunt that lives in Gilbert.

I like a house that sits on land, even if it is desert. I'd like to have about 5 acres fenced with the house in the middle. So I can see the night sky and not have to deal with neighbor's noise.

Doesn't look like that's the kind of property that the market's full of in Phoenix though so I will have to compromise.

Still would like to stay clear of the HOAs though.
There's property like that out by Tonopah.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I agree with the above posts regarding collecting junk. I have seen some nicely kept larger properties but most of them just seem to pile up stuff on them.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:01 PM
 
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The older horse property areas rarely have HOA's. They were around before HOA's came around. However, the prices are pretty high, especially if it's a really nice area. The one area that I'm thinking of (lived there until I was 3 years old) is the zip 85254. Scottsdale zip, phoenix services. An area just south of Thunderbird is horse property. The prices though went way up at the peak of the market (upwards of $1mil + for redone homes). Don't know what they are now. But, no HOA's that I am aware of. They are 1 acre I believe.

The Town of Paradise Valley are all 1 acre lots. No HOA's. Minimum $1mil to buy a more rundown home (tear down).

There are MANY areas in the outlying areas that you can buy a bit of land, however, they will be in subdivisions with HOA's. The price will be high.

Typically, HOA's can be priced from $15-100/month for a regular home. A little more for MPC with more services. Anything that is $200 or more are usually condo's or very high end areas with a golf course.

Our taxes are VERY low, so the price of an HOA still keeps the costs manageable for most. We HAVE to have HOA's to enforce the rules, if we didn't, this place would look like Detroit. JMO. There's just not enough law enforcement to deal with 4+ million people.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:06 PM
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Location: Chandler
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In AZ the land is desert so most people don't really want too much of it, hence the homes are built close together. But there are plenty of areas with acreage available. I know of several properties in North Scottsdale as well as the Southeast valley area that are not HOA governed and have land. The caveat is, you are farther out from the cities and will have a drive to get to events like sports, concerts and shopping. Good luck!

This is a joke, right??? Everyone knows the reason the houses are so close together is so the developers could get the biggest return on their investment in the land they purchased.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:08 PM
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Location: Chandler
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Yes but you still have to PAY the HOA.

Why do HOAs need so much to govern? I've seen them for nearly 200.00 a month!!

Don't know what it is in Phoenix though.

Monthly fees usually relate to the area. If you live in an HOA with large greenbelts that have places for kids to play you are going to pay more for water and maintenance.
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