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Old 12-06-2008, 03:50 PM
 
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Why is it the propensity in Phoenix to accumlate junk?

My brother-in-law lives in Huntington Beach, Ca. No HOA fees, No Mello Roos fees, etc.

The community is very well kept and no junk filled yards.
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:14 PM
 
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Check out North-North Scottsdale if you can afford it, and Cave Creek.

You'll find homes there with larger lots and some aren't even horse properties. Our neighbors just moved a mile north to Cave Creek and they have nearly an acre of land, but yeah the place was like $500k for ~3000 sq ft (even in this market).
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Why is it the propensity in Phoenix to accumlate junk?

My brother-in-law lives in Huntington Beach, Ca. No HOA fees, No Mello Roos fees, etc.

The community is very well kept and no junk filled yards.
Most places in town are well kept. It's the rural properties where you find a lot of treasures. But this is not unique to AZ for sure. I have mobile home by a lake in Oklahoma and they put us to shame when it comes to keeping tires on the roof and old bed springs and couches in the front yard. Again, in rural areas.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:06 PM
 
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Why is it the propensity in Phoenix to accumlate junk?

My brother-in-law lives in Huntington Beach, Ca. No HOA fees, No Mello Roos fees, etc.

The community is very well kept and no junk filled yards.
Some of it is a cultural thing.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:01 PM
 
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Some of it is a cultural thing.
This city has more HOA's than any place we have lived and most places have had none.

I am more in favor of them here because it keeps (supposedly) multi-families living in single family homes with jillions of cars from parking on their lawns.

At least the HOA's give an avenue to complain about non criminal lack of neighborhood compliance.

Also, I don't mind paying a small amount of money monthly in order to have nice parks and facilities in the neighborhood, especially the greenbelt and playground areas which are usually well kept.

altus2006
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:12 PM
 
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This city has more HOA's than any place we have lived and most places have had none.

I am more in favor of them here because it keeps (supposedly) multi-families living in single family homes with jillions of cars from parking on their lawns.

At least the HOA's give an avenue to complain about non criminal lack of neighborhood compliance.

Also, I don't mind paying a small amount of money monthly in order to have nice parks and facilities in the neighborhood, especially the greenbelt and playground areas which are usually well kept.

altus2006
Well, if the fees can remain under control like 25.00 a month or less it would be no problem for me. But it's when these orgs gain their own life and start raising rates every year then it's a problem.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:27 PM
 
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Well, if the fees can remain under control like 25.00 a month or less it would be no problem for me. But it's when these orgs gain their own life and start raising rates every year then it's a problem.
Most of what I have seen are close to $50 a month, without the clubs, pools and golf courses.

If the HOA fees are so irritating to you, look at older areas of town as they seem to have fewer of them. They also have more cars parked on lawns and guitar music into the night.

You need to pay attention to the old timers on the forum who know the city well. Their posts have been very helpful to me and I have learned a ton from reading info here over the past year.

altus2006
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:50 PM
 
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Yes but you still have to PAY the HOA.

Why do HOAs need so much to govern? I've seen them for nearly 200.00 a month!!

Don't know what it is in Phoenix though.
BillyBob... I understand your distaste for HOA's I went that route several times in Florida and never again... Good Luck !!
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:07 PM
 
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Look, I just don't like never ending fees. I don't like making loans and paying payment. I don't keep credit card balances, etc. When I lived in Socal I didn't have cable TV and now I don't have a home phone. In this way I work to be "free". If I want to take several months off of work and travel or what ever, I can. Or, what if you get sick and can't work. The fees never stop coming.

I'm currently living in Florida in a city that has no HOA fees that I know outside of private developments and everybody keeps their homes up nice.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:10 PM
 
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BillyBob... I understand your distaste for HOA's I went that route several times in Florida and never again... Good Luck !!
nkotb, where are you living? In the Phoenix area? Are you paying HOA fees there?

Thanks,
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