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Old 12-07-2008, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Why is it the propensity in Phoenix to accumlate junk?

My brother-in-law lives in Huntington Beach, Ca. No HOA fees, No Mello Roos fees, etc.

The community is very well kept and no junk filled yards.
And yet a few miles up the road in Long Beach, you can see plenty of junk in the communities. It's only a fair comparison if your saying Huntington Beach, CA to Chandler, AZ. I never did see that much "junk piled up" in Phoenix metro neighborhoods except for the poorer ones and some of the ones on the outskirts of town. I think the reasons for that are fairly obvious.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:04 PM
 
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Well, if the fees can remain under control like 25.00 a month or less it would be no problem for me. But it's when these orgs gain their own life and start raising rates every year then it's a problem.
We live on an acre lot in North Height subdivision in Fountain Hills. HOA fee is $195 / year. Here're a few photos of the town -> Fountain Hills, Arizona USA Photos - MetroShot.com.

The town is located about 30-35 miles from Phoenix.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:58 PM
 
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After work today I stopped by a person's house to look at something they were selling (from Craigslist) and I found myself in a really crappy neighborhood surrounded by garbage and junk in the front yards (tons of it). This is just a half mile outside of a REALLY nice area of town (arrowhead ranch). I was glad to be driving home today.

When I reached home, I exclaimed outloud, "I gladly pay my high mortgage, no problem! AND, I happily, happily, pay my HOA fees!! No problem!" Paying $240 a year is NOTHING. Even paying hundreds of dollars per month more than I should on my house is fine. No problem. I will NEVER , EVER , EVER, live without an HOA (at least while I live in AZ).
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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Well, if the fees can remain under control like 25.00 a month or less it would be no problem for me. But it's when these orgs gain their own life and start raising rates every year then it's a problem.
I live in a Starter Home neighborhood with postage stamp/zero lot lines and just got notified that my HOA dues are going up another $5 to $53 a month. When I moved into the house in '93, they were $32. We get almost nothing for it, except a stupid pool and the small community park gets mowed.

You need to go to the older neighborhoods to escape the HOA's, but sometimes you have to put up with the junkyard-wannabe neighbor.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:45 PM
 
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I live in a Starter Home neighborhood with postage stamp/zero lot lines and just got notified that my HOA dues are going up another $5 to $53 a month. When I moved into the house in '93, they were $32. We get almost nothing for it, except a stupid pool and the small community park gets mowed.

You need to go to the older neighborhoods to escape the HOA's, but sometimes you have to put up with the junkyard-wannabe neighbor.
Wow, 5.00 I could understand but 53.00, wow!! I am wondering now about a Phoenix move. I hate being boxed into never ending and yearly increasing fees. And why do they need to be so high for areas with no common grounds?

I wanted to move there because of the close proximity to California, the local Chinese population (my wife and son are both Chinese), and the large amounts of open space.

This is going to be a tough one.

I'll have to see how my wife feels.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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After work today I stopped by a person's house to look at something they were selling (from Craigslist) and I found myself in a really crappy neighborhood surrounded by garbage and junk in the front yards (tons of it). This is just a half mile outside of a REALLY nice area of town (arrowhead ranch). I was glad to be driving home today.

When I reached home, I exclaimed outloud, "I gladly pay my high mortgage, no problem! AND, I happily, happily, pay my HOA fees!! No problem!" Paying $240 a year is NOTHING. Even paying hundreds of dollars per month more than I should on my house is fine. No problem. I will NEVER , EVER , EVER, live without an HOA (at least while I live in AZ).
I can understand your position. I'm going to have to rethink the AZ move I guess. I want to put myself in the position where if I want to take a month or two off work I can. This is what living Free really means to me. I think the U.S. is boxing itself into an increasingly deeper hole in these regards.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:38 PM
 
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I live in a very nice suburb in Wisconsin BUT the manager of the apartment bldg next door to my house is a junk collector. The main view out of my house is the side of their detached garage. At one point he had a very ugly plywood thing that must have been a shed, 3 broken lawnmowers, a couple tires, 2 saw horses, etc. and 3 ft. tall weeds around all of it. No HOA...nothing I can do about it. Eyesore to me and worried how I'll sell it with that huge pile of crap right there. I would not want any extra fees either, so I totally know what you're saying. But I'm on the fence now that I've had to live next to someone like that!

When visiting Phoenix last year, we looked at a new subdivision with model homes. We couldn't get over how close the houses are either!! From one model, I could very easily look into the 2nd story bathroom next door....which had the shower right there. We were asking the same questions about lot size and left very disappointed.
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