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Old 05-17-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I remember last year many people on this forum held the belief that light rail would under-perform and be a "white elephant" or major "boondoggle." So I am wondering if this sentiment remains given that light rail passenger traffic has been heavier than anticipated? Have the naysayers been silenced and/or have rethought their old positions?
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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You could never carry enough riders to get a favorable b/c ratio. The recession is clouding the picture on whether it can be a catalyst to route/downtown development (the real reason for building it). So the jury is out IMO.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You could never carry enough riders to get a favorable b/c ratio. The recession is clouding the picture on whether it can be a catalyst to route/downtown development (the real reason for building it). So the jury is out IMO.
Interesting, well since downtown development is currently underway despite economic woes, I agree that further development may be impeded or stalled...however, I am simply referring to those who predicted that these were "trolley's on a route to nowhere" and that "no one is going to ride these streetcars."
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Interesting, well since downtown development is currently underway despite economic woes, I agree that further development may be impeded or stalled...however, I am simply referring to those who predicted that these were "trolley's on a route to nowhere" and that "no one is going to ride these streetcars."
I think that guy got kicked off the forum.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I have ridden the LR three times (all round trips) in just the last 10 days.

To me the $2.50 all day fare (LR and bus) is a smokin' deal. Hell: I would gladly pay $3-4 for that same pass.

Note I had to sell my car last week since the engine was dying.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I have ridden the LR three times (all round trips) in just the last 10 days.

To me the $2.50 all day fare (LR and bus) is a smokin' deal. Hell: I would gladly pay $3-4 for that same pass.

Note I had to sell my car last week since the engine was dying.
It might be a good thing for your financially depending on where you live. I purposely chose a location near a stop and have not been driving much since returning full time to Phoenix. I think I've saved enough on gas these last couple of months to buy some nice clothes for summer, LOL.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It might be a good thing for your financially depending on where you live. I purposely chose a location near a stop and have not been driving much since returning full time to Phoenix. I think I've saved enough on gas these last couple of months to buy some nice clothes for summer, LOL.
Trust me: if I could live in Tempe (I work near the 101/202) near Apache/Dorsey--------I would do so.

Just that my G/F is buying a house in Mesa so the above option is out.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I hear ya AZBear! Well Mesa is nice. At least you may be able to park at the Sycamore and Main stop and ride into town??? Like for a game or show? Some entertainment perhaps.
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I hear ya AZBear! Well Mesa is nice. At least you may be able to park at the Sycamore and Main stop and ride into town??? Like for a game or show? Some entertainment perhaps.
I will be moving to just S of Main St (Apache Blvd alignment) near Mesa Dr so at least I could grab a bus and transfer to the LR...........

My car was dying so I sold it last week.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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I'd like to know where the naysayers are these days too...

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Metro light rail hits million mark in April
Phoenix Business Journal

Metro light rail topped the million mark for passengers in April and increased its average daily ridership.

Metro tallied 1.04 million boardings in April, up nearly 7 percent from a previous record of 972,962 boardings in March.

Metro had an average weekday ridership of 37,386 in April, average Saturday ridership of 32,720 and average Sunday and holiday ridership of 22,694. The average weekday ridership in March was 34,376, average Saturday ridership was 28,537, and average Sunday and holiday ridership was 20,508.

To celebrate topping the 1 million-rider mark, Metro is launching One in One Million. The contest calls for riders to share positive experiences on a Metro train or in a station area. The stories will be posted online in June. The winner will receive 30 all-day transit passes, a gift bag and behind-the-scenes access to the light-rail system.

For more: Valley Metro | One in One Million Contest.
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