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Old 02-02-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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Someone recently commented that they see more Pit Bulls in Phoenix than other areas they have lived. My sister has one and when we were visiting her, someone else was walking their Pit Bull in the same apartment complex. I would find it odd that there would be more in this area than in others around the country, but I suppose it could be.

Here in Michigan, there are actually cities that have outlawed them. Does AZ have these laws in any of their cities and/or individual communities (maybe HOA's)? One man (here in MI) sold his house and moved so he could keep his Pit! Now that is a true dog lover.


I do not own a dog anymore, when I did, it was just a little lap dog. I am just curious about this topic.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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There are a lot of paranoid people here that think a dog is their protection.

Not that I dislike Pit Bulls, they can be very nice dogs if treated good. But a lot of people here do not treat them well and use them to intimidate others.

Years ago I met a man in Tucson that bred them and sold them to people that would fight them, very sad. But I was amazed at how many people wanted these abused dogs, I mean thousands of dollars per dog.

As you know, we have had our share of "Michael Vick's", the most prominent one was the rapper DMX who lived here in Cave Creek. Funny, but most people here love animals, yet this kind of thing still goes on.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I see a lot of pits and American bulldogs here in Phoenix. I think it may also have something to do with the fact that we have a lot of small, no kill rescues that give opportunities to the dogs that would usually be euthanized at the county pound. It does seem to me that many of the mutts I see at the dog park are pit crosses of some sort, but I also see a lot of people assuming a dog is a pit or pit mix when they are not. My dog is a Border Collie Whippet cross but I have an aunt who insists my dog is a pit mix. I am not aware of any town or HOA that outlaws pits, but I am a renter whose landlords prohibit us from having any of the bully breeds.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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People try to make up for other shortcomings by having a big mean dog, or a big loud truck.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I don't love pitbulls. I think the bad breeding and bad owner's have ruined them. I do not care how well behaved, how many babies they let crawl all over them, they are very unpredictable. We had two here in our village that used to stare us down when walking on the trail. These two "family" dogs got out one morning went accross the road to the retirment village and attacked a woman moving into her new home. They ripped her dog to pieces, bit her bad enough to put her in the hospital and then went out to kill another residents dog. It is like keeping a loaded gun around small children. Maybe nothing will happen and you can go on to brag about how smart your kids were or the unthinkable will happen.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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There is no BSL here (Breed Specific Legislation). Breeders and responsible owners of Pit Bulls, Dobermans, Rottweilers and other breeds have been fighting BSL all over the country, trying to make the individual dog that is a hazard the issue, promoting responsible ownership, and speaking out against sanctions of entire breeds of dogs.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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What bothers me is that the vast majority of these owners do not have the financial means to take care of their own families, let alone take responsibility for the actions of their dogs.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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There is no BSL here (Breed Specific Legislation). Breeders and responsible owners of Pit Bulls, Dobermans, Rottweilers and other breeds have been fighting BSL all over the country, trying to make the individual dog that is a hazard the issue, promoting responsible ownership, and speaking out against sanctions of entire breeds of dogs.
I would never propose a bill telling people what kind of dog they can own. I do however feel those who want to keep dangerous breeds have the means to pay those who lose children or pets in an attack. If they want to live life as a moving target for law suits, that is their right. However, I can always use another house.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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I don't love pitbulls. I think the bad breeding and bad owner's have ruined them. I do not care how well behaved, how many babies they let crawl all over them, they are very unpredictable. We had two here in our village that used to stare us down when walking on the trail. These two "family" dogs got out one morning went accross the road to the retirment village and attacked a woman moving into her new home. They ripped her dog to pieces, bit her bad enough to put her in the hospital and then went out to kill another residents dog. It is like keeping a loaded gun around small children. Maybe nothing will happen and you can go on to brag about how smart your kids were or the unthinkable will happen.
I can tell you have NEVER owned a pit bull. In fact, I would be willing to bet money on it. My best friend thought I was crazy for owning a pit. That was until he saw the light. He has 4 kids, and he took my advice in buying one. He has now had his pit bull for 2 years who is a female name Chocolate. He raised her from a puppy, and has found her to be the most loving dog he has ever owned. She is also very protective of the family, and is all around a great dog. He even lets her sleep with him and his wife. The simple fact is you never saw what went behind closed doors with your neighbor. Pit bulls are hands down the most loving, sweetest breed there is. Believe it or not, but you are WAY more likely to be attacked by a Chihuahua than a pit bull.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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There is no BSL here (Breed Specific Legislation). Breeders and responsible owners of Pit Bulls, Dobermans, Rottweilers and other breeds have been fighting BSL all over the country, trying to make the individual dog that is a hazard the issue, promoting responsible ownership, and speaking out against sanctions of entire breeds of dogs.

BSL has an urban definition of bull sh@$ legislation, which is what it really is. Let's not make Phoenix like Denver, which truly is a disgraceful city. If anyone ever wants to know why I absolutely despise the city, this is one of the main reasons.

Denver pit bull ban leads to 'dogs in hiding' - Other Pet News- msnbc.com
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