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Old 09-22-2010, 08:00 AM
 
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Except the shortage of Hotels part....Pittsburgh is going to have to get hotels built if it's ever going to attrack the Big Events

A weeklly e-magazine about the people and places advancing the Pittsburgh region Pittsburgh keeps the G20 party going with 22,000 jobs, soldout hotels and free Penguins tix

Now Honest Bob and sr1234 Dont have a Heart Attack when you read this, I know how "Unbelievable" this news will be to take.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:13 AM
 
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I find it interesting that this article came out the same week the ACLU filed a lawsuit against the police. And I also think both stories are essentially correct: hosting the G20 was well worth it for Pittsburgh, and the police engaged in excessive behavior.

Incidentally, I had the same reaction about the bit about the hotel rooms.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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In addition, several major companies, including UPMC, have announced plans to hire hundreds, he adds.
And they'll all be contractors with awful benefits and low pay, or employees with low pay. Don't ask how I know.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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I won't because you don't
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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I won't because you don't
Oh yes, I'm sure I know nothing on this issue.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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Then either spill - or let's just move on, you dont think we'd take your wisecracking knock on area jobs as the truth do you....either way its JOBS!
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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Then either spill - or let's just move on, you dont think we'd take your wisecracking knock on area jobs as the truth do you....either way its JOBS!
Jobs are good, but what the companies in this area are doing are not.

Over the past few months, Highmark sent out a few hundred e-mails to various employees in their IT Department and advised them to voluntarily resign so that it would help the company. Well the people that got these e-mails saw this as the writing on the wall and left the company. However, the company left the door open for them to come back as "contractors" for lower benefits and so the company wouldn't have to pay payroll tax. Why haven't we heard about Highmark dropping hundreds of jobs on the news? Because people "voluntarily" left their positions.

UPMC hasn't gone to this extreme quite yet, however every time someone in their IT department drops off the map they're replaced with a contractor with low pay and benefits. It's vicious.

I do freelance IT work for a "recruiter".
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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At least they are still paying local citizens. The next pressure will be to completely outsource these positions to overseas companies. I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies where this practice started 5+ years ago. As the financial pressure rises, so does the level of outsourcing. Instead of just being first level IT support, you end up outsourcing even the most technical / skilled positions, and then are left with a local skeleton crew.

So I'm not saying it is a good policy, but it could be much worse.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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At least they are still paying local citizens. The next pressure will be to completely outsource these positions to overseas companies. I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies where this practice started 5+ years ago. As the financial pressure rises, so does the level of outsourcing. Instead of just being first level IT support, you end up outsourcing even the most technical / skilled positions, and then are left with a local skeleton crew.

So I'm not saying it is a good policy, but it could be much worse.
True, it is better than completely outsourcing. However it seems that companies have learned that outsourcing at the highest level (developers mostly) has NOT been beneficial and they've been backing off. Instead, there seems to be and increase in this whole "contracting" phenomenon and importing foreign workers via H1-B visas. Some people call it "in-house outsourcing".

I'm working at a big company right now and I'm seeing this first hand.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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So there's a shortage of prime office and hotel space in Pittsburgh? Time to start another building boom!
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