07-24-2007, 10:01 AM
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Hey, all. Moving in a few months and need a few tips on neighborhoods. Husband and I are a couple in our mid-twenties, moving for my job, which will be in Oakdale. We're looking for an apartment or house to rent, near a park (3 dogs) and a coffee shop...and definetely a bookstore. He's way into live music, but we want somewhere safe.
07-24-2007, 11:49 AM
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Oakdale is kind of out in the 'burbs so the closest neighborhods with the walkable amenities you're looking for are most likely Crafton, Mt. Lebanon, and Dormont.
07-24-2007, 01:49 PM
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Depends on your idea of "close to Oakdale" I suppose. Shadyside definitely fits your bill, but would be at very least a half-hour commute at rush, and you get to battle the Fort Pitt Tunnels. Further away yet would the Highland Park/Regent Square area...parks, coffee shop, live music, books, etc...but the commute is a bit further yet. Mt. Lebanon ain't bad, but I don't know that I'd consider it "artsy"...though it is pretty quaint and nice. Southside would offer all of those things you want in mass, but is probably the least "cozy" of the places I've suggested. It is urban through and through- straight-up city. The problem is you want a good commute to the country (Oakdale) with city amenities! How long are you willing to be in the car each day? Do these things have to be within walking distance or just a short drive away? If you are willing to drive to said amenities, there a tons of choices around.
07-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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Confession: I am scared of driving in PA weather. I'm from Texas, where it snows *MAYBE* once a year. That's really the only issue I have with the commute. As far as the amenities, is a coffee shop and book store (preferably non-chain) really a city amenity? I guess they don't really need to be walkable. Here, the suburbs are like the seventh circle of hell, but maybe it's not like that there? South Side definately sounds too urban. I'm cool with a commute, we're just looking for a place that feels comfy.
07-24-2007, 02:16 PM
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Confession: I am scared of driving in PA weather. I'm from Texas, where it snows *MAYBE* once a year.
Driving in 6" of snow is easier than driving in a thunderstorm, in my opinion. In snow you've got traction, in a sheet of water your tires are actually off the ground. Many people worry about this, but I wouldn't if I were you. The past couple of years I can only remember a couple of times where it was bad enough I couldn't drive 65 on the highway. It snows often in Western PA, but not huge amounts often...lots of little 1" and 2" snows that don't affect the roads after a little traffic has driven on them.
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As far as the amenities, is a coffee shop and book store (preferably non-chain) really a city amenity? I guess they don't really need to be walkable. Here, the suburbs are like the seventh circle of hell, but maybe it's not like that there?
Well, I don't think the burbs are hell, but I think I am in the minority often on this board. They are full of fairly cookie-cutter chain-type stores. There is probably a coffee shop and a book store in Oakdale, or at least just up the road in Imperial. But I wouldn't call either of those places "cozy". I'd call them small-townish and more rural than even suburban.
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we're just looking for a place that feels comfy.
I'd say Shadyside and Mount Lebanon are very "comfy". I know what you mean, and I think you'd be happy there, even with the commute. Shadyside is probably a bit more "posh", for lack of a better term. Its main shopping area- Walnut Street- can be a tad pretentious in my opinion. Still, it is very nice. Tree-lined streets, old well-kept homes. No doubt coffee shops and book stores, but mixed in with places to buy $5,000 suits and $2,000 handbags if you know what I mean. I'd say Mt. Lebo is a bit more "comfy"...I don't have great reasoning other than I've spent time there and it just feels so. Lots of little shops in one of the several very small shopping areas there. Shadyside is a city neighborhood- it is officially IN Pittsburgh, though it would be easy to confuse with a suburb when you are in the middle of it. Drive 5 minutes away and there would be doubt you are in a city with the height of the buildings, traffic, etc. Mt. Lebo is more of a traditional suburb, but is very old and thus hasn't taken on characteristics of the "big box suburbs" of many modern cities. Shadyside is on the "wrong" side of town for the commute to Oakdale too. Mt Lebo is at least closer to the "right" side.
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07-25-2007, 08:29 AM
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There are suburbs here with independent coffee shops and book stores. I know that I have seen these things, but sadly I can't tell you which suburbs I was in. Maybe Bellevue? I remember Bellevue's main drag being pretty cozy and lined with local businesses. Not sure if I saw a bookstore but I certainly saw coffee shops.
07-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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You got a job that is bringing you TO Oakdale? Wonderful (I'm jealous)! Oakdale is my hometown, although I haven't lived there in years due to my hubby being from Minnesota. I get "home" at least once per year, and will be there next month!
About the only place to get coffee in Oakdale is the Oakdale Diner, and I don't believe there's a bookstore there. There is a decent sized park for a small town on McKee Road on your way into town. Close by (5.26 miles per Mapquest) is Robinson Town Center & The Pointe that has all kinds of shops, restaurants, a Barnes & Noble Bookstore, Caribou Coffee, and Starbucks (sorry, most everything out there is a chain). I haven't been in Imperial in quite a while, so I'm not sure what they have there anymore.
As for places to live, here's what I posted previously about Oakdale, which may sound a bit slow for you:
//www.city-data.com/forum/pitts...html#post91838
Crafton, Bridgeville, Robinson Township, Moon Township, Mt Lebanon, parts of Carnegie, or even in Dormont could get you the amenities you're looking for and still keep you off the Parkway and out of the Fort Pitt Tunnels!
Please feel free to PM me--I'm hoping to be home next month and can possibly do some snooping for you!
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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