Cleveburgh (Pittsburgh, Washington, Indiana: townhouse, unemployment rate, luxury)

[gg]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

I'd say a booming Philadelphia would automatically be more important since it'd mean more state tax revenue.

I agree, I would much rather see Philly do really well to help pay some debt down since this generation running everything loves to live well beyond our means.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

I'd say a booming Philadelphia would automatically be more important since it'd mean more state tax revenue.

Same answer. But fortunately, it is largely a false choice. A lot of public and private policies would benefit both Philly and Cleveland, and in general I think Pittsburgh being a network node (in fact THE network node) between the Northeast Coast and Great Lakes implies Pittsburgh's interests are best-served by prosperity on both sides.

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Originally Posted by BrianTH

Same answer. But fortunately, it is largely a false choice.

You feel a prosperous Cleveland is more important than a prosperous Philly?

Personally I don't think a booming Cleveland would do anything for Pittsburgh at all. On top of that, there is no state revenue with Cleveland being in Ohio.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

You feel a prosperous Cleveland is more important than a prosperous Philly?

Personally I don't think a booming Cleveland would do anything for Pittsburgh at all. On top of that, there is no state revenue with Cleveland being in Ohio.

I guess a booming Philly but I think it would draw more attention and concentrate more state political power to PA's extreme southeast corner.

But as I said before, when I lived in Pittsburgh, I didn't give a damn about Philly and I suspect they don't give a damn about the Burgh. It takes about 5 1/2 hours to drive to Philly and about 2 1/2 hours to drive to Cleveland. So even Cleveland is not really close enough to boost Pittsburgh economically. A booming Cleveland might even entice companies to leave Pittsburgh for Cleveland. US Airways moved its hub from Pittsburgh to Philly because it is a much larger market.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

You feel a prosperous Cleveland is more important than a prosperous Philly?

Nice reading comprehension--try again.

Personally I don't think a booming Cleveland would do anything for Pittsburgh at all.

Lots of Pittsburgh companies do business in Cleveland.

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

I guess a booming Philly but I think it would draw more attention and concentrate more state political power to PA's extreme southeast corner.

But as I said before, when I lived in Pittsburgh, I didn't give a damn about Philly and I suspect they don't give a damn about the Burgh. It takes about 5 1/2 hours to drive to Philly and about 2 1/2 hours to drive to Cleveland. So even Cleveland is not really close enough to boost Pittsburgh economically. A booming Cleveland might even entice companies to leave Pittsburgh for Cleveland. US Airways moved its hub from Pittsburgh to Philly because it is a much larger market.

USAirways already had a Hub in Philly along with the Burgh and Charlotte....It left Pittsburgh because of the high fee's here coupled with the Airline was going bankrupt when the 1st attempt at merging with United failed.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

USAirways already had a Hub in Philly along with the Burgh and Charlotte....It left Pittsburgh because of the high fee's here coupled with the Airline was going bankrupt when the 1st attempt at merging with United failed.

US Airways gradually de-emphasized Pittsburgh and moved flights to Philly. In terms of air travel, it didn't make sense to have two hubs that close and Philly had more origin and destination flights than Pittsburgh.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

Personally I don't think a booming Cleveland would do anything for Pittsburgh at all.

Cleveland was the "Renaissance City" back in the 1990's. It didn't do **** for Pittsburgh. If anything, it diminished Pittsburgh's profile even further than it already was.

[nuwaver88]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Cleveland was the "Renaissance City" back in the 1990's. It didn't do **** for Pittsburgh. If anything, it diminished Pittsburgh's profile even further than it already was.

I remember that. A lot of it was centered around the success of their baseball team and it's new stadium, Jacobs Field. The Flats were a huge regional destination at the time.. I heard that the Flats are not what they used to be and the momentum stalled. I have heard that Cleveland is rebounding again.

[BrianTH]

The recent recession has been a lot harder on Cleveland than Pittsburgh. I hope they bounce back relatively quickly, but I don't think Pittsburgh has to worry about being overshadowed anytime soon.

I also think that whole notion is incorrect anyway. Having other prosperous cities nearby is correlated with superior, not inferior, economic development. As usual, I think a lot of people are overlooking the demand side--the observed results indicate that a given locality within a regional cluster is likely to benefit more from the increased demand-side opportunities than it will lose through the increased supply-side competition.